Youths arrested in school break-in

By Jon Johnson
Assistant Editor
Published on Friday, June 26, 2009 9:42 AM MST

Three juveniles have been arrested and booked into the Southeast Arizona Juvenile Detention Facility in regard to a recent break-in and burglary at the Safford High School.

Safford Police were called to the school Monday morning after a custodian noticed debris near a soda machine and a broken classroom window.

While investigating the scene, officer Brad Reynolds noted damage to several school computers and that a table leg had been removed and apparently used to smash the classroom window and a soda machine. He also discovered a silver and red Samsung AT&T cell phone laying on a table.

Reynolds took information from the phone, cross referenced it with the police's own records, and came to believe the owner was Kyle Herbert, who was known to be living with his mother at the Gila River Apartments in Thatcher.

Reynolds and detectives Glen Orr and Bill Wren went to the apartment complex and located Herbert. Also inside the apartment was Herbert's friend, Aaron Sandin, 17, of Benson. Police noted Sandin was wearing a T-shirt with "SHS FBLA 08/09" printed on it. Officers observed the shirt had a crease down the middle as if it had been left folded for a lengthy period of time. Both subjects agreed to come to the Police Department to be interviewed about the school break-in.

During his interview, Herbert allegedly told detective Orr that he and Sandin were walking to a friend's house at about 11 p.m. Sunday when they met up with Matthew Arevalo, 16, of Thatcher. The group began walking back to the apartment complex, and Sandin said he knew how to break into the Safford High School. The group stopped at the school, and Sandin opened the door, according to Herbert's interview. Herbert allegedly said he stayed outside as a lookout but entered the school when he heard banging noises and witnessed Sandin hitting a vending machine with a table leg. He said Arevalo was inside with Sandin, but he didn't see him hit anything. Herbert then allegedly left the school and met up with the other two subjects later at Wal-Mart. He admitted the phone found at the scene was his and said he had let Sandin borrow it. He added that Sandin was wearing the FBLA shirt when he met up with him at Wal-Mart and that he didn't have it before they entered the school.

Herbert was booked into the juvenile detention center for aggravated criminal damage, burglary and trespassing.

During his interview, Aaron said he had the shirt for some time and must have gotten it from his sister who previously attended school there. He denied being inside the school the night before and requested an attorney.

Sandin was then advised he was going to be booked into the juvenile detention facility and that he would have to remove the shirt. He then removed the shirt and threw it in officer Reynolds' face, according to a police report. Reynolds handcuffed Sandin and began escorting him to the detention facility. As he was being led away, Sandin cursed at Reynolds and dared him to take of the handcuffs.

"Take this (sic) cuffs off for five minutes (expletive deleted), and I'll show you what's up," Sandin allegedly said.

Reynolds removed the handcuffs at the detention center, and Sandin continued to be unruly. A detention officer contacted a sergeant to help control Sandin so he could be booked. He was booked on an outstanding warrant, burglary, aggravated criminal damage, criminal trespass and threatening or intimidating.

Detective Orr subsequently showed the T-shirt to FBLA instructor Marcy Barlow, who identified it as being the one missing from a drawer in her room.

Orr interviewed Matthew Arevalo, the third suspect, on Tuesday. Arevalo, who recently attempted to flee the scene of an accident in Thatcher, allegedly admitted to entering the school and witnessing Sandin and Herbert beating on a vending machine. He denied taking part in the vandalism and said he left the school at that time.

Arevalo was booked into the juvenile detention facility on a warrant and a juvenile referral was sent to the Graham County Attorney's office for review.

Comments

77 comment(s)

    student at ShS wrote on Jul 13, 2009 4:04 PM:

    " just so all you know..... my writing wasn't on porpuse. some of my keys on my key board don't work. and yeah i need to work on it. but i just wanted to state my opinon on this. cause i think its an issue that should have consern. people should hate on how people write on here. they should read what poeple think of the issue and not how people write. "

    Bad Mom wrote on Jul 13, 2009 1:48 PM:

    " Everyone is attacking the mom because she is making excuses for her loser child. Her child made the bad choices, but it is obvious where he learned this. Responsibility was never a lesson in this home. "

    Poppyd wrote on Jul 10, 2009 3:30 PM:

    " Seems to be a lot of people looking to place blame on all but the teens, 3 boys with nothing to do so out of boredom they trash the school. They knew what they were doing, don't blame parents, school system, or anyone else but these teens, thats the problem now days lets find blame instead of punishing the guilty and moving om "

    butters wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:04 PM:

    " Sounds like the story they posted a day or two ago about out-of-wedlock births, and how AHCCCS affects a child behavior. I feel that kids don’t want to be on welfare, it general turns them into disgruntled people and they take it out on schools or by shop lifting or fights because they feel that they did not get a fair shake in life. Statistically speaking if you are having a kid out of wed lock and you need AHCCCS the stats are against you so prepare for the worst and hope for the best. "

    bystander wrote on Jul 9, 2009 12:50 PM:

    " Young guys who resort to this kind of criminal mischief are usually lacking confidence in their maleness and try to make up for it with anonymous destructive behavior. They are only brave under cover of night and in the company of others like themselves. So much for the gangsta element running rampant in our society. A bunch of mommy's boys without the benefit of a decent dad for a role model. "

    teacher wrote on Jul 8, 2009 6:10 PM:

    " Dear "illiteracy at SHS"- generally speaking, high school teachers do not teach high school students how to write and spell. By this age, they should already come equipped with those skills. In defense of the elementary teachers, you can lead a student to spell and write correctly, but if they choose not to apply what they have learned, they are in charge of their own destiny. Don't place blame. "

    Brilliant wrote on Jul 7, 2009 12:45 PM:

    " So by "defending" mad mom, you are saying we should all have kids, live on welfare and go to the bar, all the while neglecting our children?

    Good thinking! "

    MadMom not necessarily BadMom wrote on Jul 7, 2009 7:11 AM:

    " I am going to defend MadMom because the truth of the matter is that we cannot predict what our children will do. I know good Christian families where there are 5 children & just 1 child is a delinquent. I have known Mormon bishops with 1 child that is a delinquent. I have known parents that ignore & never take care of their children & none are delinquent. There is no way to know if the next delinquent will be your child. Parents, it isn't always your fault. Sometimes it is more simplistic; your child screws up. "

    its sad... wrote on Jul 5, 2009 4:55 PM:

    " The mother blamed the problems the kid was having with a girlfriend......and other were saying it was because of the drugs. Come on now these kids see how they are getting away with it and only getting probation. The people who get violated should get to pick the punishment for the violaters. Take away all their phones,i-pods,stereos,vehicles and let them smash everything up with a hammer in front of thier face and spray paint thier cars. just ruin everything they have "

    its sad... wrote on Jul 5, 2009 4:51 PM:

    " You guys are so taking this way out of proportion. Its not the schools responsibility to babysit your children. These kids should be taught how to act at home and take that action to the school. And now that the budgets are getiing cut even worse thats even More important that the kids start taking more responsibility for themselves and grow up. I was that age once and i new that vandalizing or stealing or anything of the sort was wrong . I know for a fact from the post i wrote before the teens mother contd "

    To Student at ShS wrote on Jul 5, 2009 2:24 PM:

    " This was taken from an earlier post....don't assume because they were arrested in Thatcher that they went to THS.

    to thinking wrote on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 PM:
    " these guys were arrested in thatcher, all 3 were raised and went to school in safford (i know them all), and Sandin has also spent a little time in benson and wilcox as well...." "

    illiteracy at SHS wrote on Jul 5, 2009 8:37 AM:

    " To the teachers who taught this SHS student to write and spell, you should bow your heads in shame. "

    student at ShS wrote on Jul 4, 2009 3:06 PM:

    " hasnt any body ever noticed that when some one breaks into SHS its people from thatcher???? i mean im not trying to blame it on them that every time our school gets breaked in it thatcher students. but i remember when they fandilized our football field and you can still see the "THS" on the sidwalk on the visiters side. but the rrason why im writting this is because i want to know why do people break in to schools anyways.and who is that stupid to leave a cell phone? in my opion safford students seems more mature than thacher. "

    sonny wrote on Jul 3, 2009 12:26 PM:

    " No one said you should give up on your kids when they do wrong, just don't keep making excuses for them like madmom is doing. I guess for her its a guilt thing cause she know's its her fault, but to make herself feel better, its easier to blame it on the town and schools, that way she doesn't have to take responsibility. "

    Dont Judge wrote on Jul 2, 2009 11:09 PM:

    " So I guess everyone is this town just gives up on a kid when they get into trouble. If what everyone is saying is true about the teen's family life, then why isn't everyone more compassionate about his situation? Teens are still learning and can turn their lives around if they have the right guidance. Children don't have a choice with the parent they are given. Sometimes having just ONE person to care about them can give them hope. "

    No Suprise wrote on Jul 2, 2009 9:35 PM:

    " Kyles dad worked very hard to get custody of him and to raise him with values and morals. But he could not undo 15years of neglect. His mom let him do whatever he wanted. Madmom, was only interested in child support and not what was good for Kyle. Madmom found out her cousin inherited alot of money and got pregnant by her cousin to seek a claim on that inheritance. That didn't workout, so she kept "looking for Mr Right" to get more money by having more kids. Madmom, doesn't care about being a parent, she only cares about money. "

    Recipe wrote on Jul 2, 2009 9:11 PM:

    " Lowlife Recipe 1) Quit school, it's boring and not cool. 2) Get pregnant, or get someone pregnant so you can get welfare 3) Work is boring and requires too much effort, so it important to stay on welfare don't report the child support you get to state of AZ. 4) Have more kids. 5) Raising kids is too much trouble, so ignore them,and go to the bars to meet someone to" help" take care of you while your kids are ignored and running the streets. 5) Have more kids to get more welfare. 6) Your kids growup to repeat 1-6 "

    To to aj and dont judge wrote on Jul 2, 2009 8:05 AM:

    " Wow, you must be the coolest parent ever!! I wished when I was tearing up my school and doing drugs, my folks would have looked at it as a fun learning experience, can I come live with you?? "

    To AJ wrote on Jul 2, 2009 1:48 AM:

    " I can tell AJ is a BORING person. He doesn't even express his own opinion on the topic. And yes, when you're a teenager, sometimes doing things that COULD get you into trouble are fun. I'm just being honest. How else would a person learn without making some mistakes? GET REAL! And If my kid got into trouble they would be disciplined appropriately but it wouldn't be the end of the world. "

    To Dont Judge wrote on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 PM:

    " Maybe your kids and Madmom's kids should get together and hangout. That way anything that the kids do while they're hanging out you both can blame on the community, and schools. Sticking up for your kids when they have committed a crime is condoning their criminal behavior, but then again hooking up with her cousin when he inherited a million dollars isn't smart either. Madmom thought she hit the jackpot with him by having his baby. She never considered what impact that decision had on her son's life. Just like you aren't considering what sticking up for your kids tellsthemwhentheyhavedonewrong. "

    matter of time wrote on Jul 1, 2009 9:22 PM:

    " It was only a matter of time that Madmom's child would be in trouble. It will only be a matter of time before her other children will also be in trouble with the law. Her other son ripped off her fiance's credit card and charged thousands of dollars worth of playstation games and game systems to his account. Madmom's isn't a parent. She just has kids to finance her life through TANF and welfare. She doesn't care about her kids. She lets them do whatever they want. Madmom's other son hasn't been to school the past year or so. We'llseehimintheCouriersoonerorlater "

    Parent of teens wrote on Jul 1, 2009 7:48 AM:

    " I want to take a moment to COMMEND Jessica and the Probabtion department for all they have done to help me raise my child! He is doing much better and becoming a great youth,. He has been taught right from wrong, but made some bad choices. However, I as a parent along with the Graham County Probabtion Department and the courts have never blamed his problems on anyone but HIM. Kids need to learn they can control their decisions, but they CANNOT control the concequences! Nobody's to blame but himself for what he did! "

    School Employee wrote on Jul 1, 2009 7:37 AM:

    " Madmom blames the schools and the principal of the schools that Kyle attended quite readily. What she doesn't say is that the school district had to take her to court because of her childrens excessive truancy. She said to the court that when her kids didn't feel like going to school so she wasn't going to make them go to school. I had numerous meetings with Madmom about her childs behavior and educational needs, Madmom just didn't care. She always blamed the school. It's sad but nothing an educator does matters when parents just don't care about their children. "

    well go figure wrote on Jul 1, 2009 6:25 AM:

    " Bottom Line: The 17yearoldkid did the crime. He didn't learn right from wrong from his mom. His mom "raised" him while she was at the bars partying. She has not held a job longer than 3months in over 12years. Her job was hanging out in the bars looking for the next meal ticket to "take care of her"while we supported her on welfare. She didn't teach her kid values because she doesn't have any herself. Four kids by four seperate men all being raised by the taxpayers. Now the taxpayer gets to keep taking care of her oldest child. "

    A.J. wrote on Jun 30, 2009 10:33 AM:

    " Are you serious?? Equating getting into trouble and doing the wrong thing FUN? But to behave yourself and do the right thing is boring, I suppose when your kids get in trouble with the law, you ask them if they had a good time doing it, because that seems to be important to you. And for someone who says their going to shut up, you sure do keep rambling on. "

    Dont Judge wrote on Jun 30, 2009 2:08 AM:

    " And to the person who directed their post to me...I think your brain is still underdeveloped. A teen's brain IS underdeveloped. The frontal lobe isn't yet fully functioning thus teens have difficulty with reasoning. It's a FACT...look it up. Here is the website so you won't have to stress your semi-functioning brain to search for it: pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/teenbrain/ "

    Dont Judge wrote on Jun 30, 2009 2:01 AM:

    " You have the right to say what you like about the teens and their parents but personally, I'm going to keep my mouth shut. Far too many times I've seen over-confident parents judge other children/parents for getting pregnant, doing drugs, vandalism, etc and then their child goes out and does the same thing. I'm going to do the very best I can raising my own children and have empathy for those families that are struggling with unruly children rather than judging them and making fun of them. Because you never know, It could be you one day!!! "

    Dont Judge wrote on Jun 30, 2009 1:56 AM:

    " Oh..I know. You were a perfect teenager and are probably still a perfect adult with perfect children...right?? Get real! I highly doubt that you NEVER did anything wrong as a teenager, but even if that's true, then you must have been REALLY boring! I'm sorry you didn't have any fun. :( I was simply saying that a lot of teenagers (not all) get into trouble and it is not the end of the world. Parents usually do the best that they can and shouldn't be blamed for their almost grown children's decisions. "

    To dont judge wrote on Jun 29, 2009 12:01 PM:

    " Now your saying its because of his underveloped brain, what a crock,, hundreds of kids in this community are of the same age but they don't go around vandalizing their schools, doing drugs and being on probation. I never got in any kind of trouble as a teenager because I was raised by 2 strict parents that taught me right from wrong, even with my under developed brain.. "

    No more excuses wrote on Jun 29, 2009 11:55 AM:

    " No matter what bad things your kids do, your still going to love them, but to defend and make excuses for their bad behavior is ridiculous. I would be the first in line to have the judge throw the book at them if one of my kids did this. The more this MAD MOM defends her son and makes excuses for him, telling him its everyones fault but his, the more trouble he will get into in the future. "

    well now wrote on Jun 29, 2009 6:06 AM:

    " Ok lets see, at 17 if missed school, got a bad grade, called off work (yes my part time job) or came home past 10pm w/o calling my parents I got my a$$ beat. It didnt take long to learn the right thing to do. And simple communication with my parents made a world of difference in my life. "

    Chris wrote on Jun 29, 2009 4:29 AM:

    " Mad Mom is very typical of a LOT of parents whose kids are on probation. In their minds, it's NEVER their child's fault for violating the law or "getting into trouble". It's ALWAYS the fault of the schools, probation officers, cops, etc.. What they should be doing is teaching their kids to take FULL responsibility for the actions, but they don't & their kids end-up in prison. What a shock, huh? "

    Dont Judge wrote on Jun 29, 2009 1:10 AM:

    " A lot of teens get into trouble and turn out to be fine members of the community. There is no reason to call them "losers." They just need guidance, discipline, and love. And how rude to make fun of Mad Mom's grammar. Wouldn't it be a shame if this is the community where she attended school and the teachers HERE are to blame for that? "

    Dont Judge wrote on Jun 29, 2009 1:04 AM:

    " One thing I've learned is that you should never judge someone else's child. It will bite you in the butt everytime. We don't personally know Mad Mom so how can we blame her for what a 17 year old boy does? It is a scientific fact that teenagers brains aren't fully developed yet which is why they sometimes make poor decisions. She probably isn't thrilled with her son's actions either but what can she do? Any good mom would stick up for her child. If a mother won't, who will?!! Cont..... "

    to someone wrote on Jun 28, 2009 4:06 PM:

    " so kids in tucson and phoenix dont committ suicide or break the law? thats just another stupid excuse that is no different than blaming it on poor parenting, they have plenty other options to occupy their time but this is what they chose to do because they are all criminals, giving them "something to do" isnt gonna change that. and by the way, your apathetic reference to kids committing suicide is very offensive to the friends and family effected by the losses, keep those opinions to yourself. "

    Exceptions Not the Norm wrote on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM:

    " These guys made bad choices and now they will be held responsible for those choices.

    Don't try to blame it on there being nothing to do in this area. There are a lot of youths that seem to find something to do here without breaking and entering and vandalizing schools.

    These individuals are the exception and not the rule. There are a lot more good kids than ones making bad choices here.

    Hopefully, these guys will learn their lesson. "

    someone wrote on Jun 28, 2009 12:16 PM:

    " seriously, these comments are ridiculous, just proves how pathetic this town is. Maybe you should all just grow up and stop arguing with ppl over the computer. if you ppl really knew what these kids go through than u would think differently, yeah it was stupid what they did but thats life DEAL WITH IT. maybe if this town had something for teenagers to do they wouldnt all be busy committing suicide or breaking into schools! "

    to thinking wrote on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 PM:

    " these guys were arrested in thatcher, all 3 were raised and went to school in safford (i know them all), and Sandin has also spent a little time in benson and wilcox as well. please dont spread your ignorance of the library situation into the story of these criminals, if we want to read about that crap we'll go to the comments on a story about the library, its got nothing to do with this. they did it because that is entertainment to them, there is no other motive and nobody else to point the blame at. "

    To mad mom wrote on Jun 27, 2009 12:03 PM:

    " Dang woman, how many times has your kid been in trouble with the law prior to this latest incident?? You mentioned probation, and dirty U.As, and you have the stupidity to blame it all on the town and schools and everyone who's ever met your kid. Blame yourself, blame him!! The very fact that you got on here to comment and admit that he's your kid and stick up for his behavior tells me your not a very intelligent person. "

    thinking wrote on Jun 27, 2009 11:56 AM:

    " lets see these kids came from thatcher, if they had a library maybe they could read instead of braking into a safford school. The kids must have fegured out that safford was the only one in the valley giving free hand outs. Not, it took safford cops to getem, Terry give them a library so this stuff could hapen to you!! "

    Sally wrote on Jun 27, 2009 11:43 AM:

    " To Mad Mom; You really should quit with the nonsense. You are attacking people you don't even know. Is it worth it? You should concentrate on what is most important, your child. He is the one responsible for his actions. He must pay for his crimes. Is this the first time your son has been in trouble? That's what I thought. The punishment the first time did not work. Blaming others is just a cop out. Own up to your lack of parenting skills and get some help. "

    Its sad wrote on Jun 27, 2009 9:19 AM:

    " I know 3 other boys who were juveniles at the time they did alot of damage to the gila valley, even to family members who cared for them. And its sad because they will just get some probation and be sent home where they can keep playing thier expensive games and hang out with friends. It was sickening to know after all they stole soon after that they were enjoying christmas at home with thier families. Still to this day my parents cant relax and go anywhere because they were violated and afraid it will happen again. "

    Tough Love wrote on Jun 27, 2009 8:37 AM:

    " To Mad Mom........You have to take some responsibility. I was a kid who did what my friends did. A follower. The leaders were trouble. I turned out ok. My parents grounded me, I snuck out... Then I was threatened with Juvenile detention... I straighted up and made my own decisions. If your son is at the detention center, it could help. Why didn't you try sending him there on your own? Many parents do. Best wishes and pray he gets help. "

    tired of stupidity wrote on Jun 27, 2009 7:47 AM:

    " too mad mom. we are not judging. we are giving our opionion. we are given that right. the reason im giving my opionion is becauce we as tax payers will have to pay for his lawyer, his jail cell, his court costs, his food,his medical care and what ever other expence he forces on us. all this because he cant stay out of trouble. so unless you are willing to assume resposiblity for all of this we still have this right.
    i wish people on the comment board for "out of wedloock births" could read these. "

    Patriot wrote on Jun 27, 2009 7:27 AM:

    " Here's the bottom line- kids these days aren't stupid and they do know right from wrong. They have access to tons of information in every way, shape, and form.......we didn't have that growing up. Most of us had 10 channels if we were lucky and the internet wasn't around. We stayed outside all day and kept occupied playing with friends, not screwing up other people's property, stealing, or doing drugs. Some parents don't give a hoot, others do the right thing and are rebeled against.......hold the kids accountable and let them learn the hard way. "

    well go figure wrote on Jun 27, 2009 6:54 AM:

    " Madmom, you set the example as a parent to your child in all that you do and say. If you aren't setting the example your children will never learn right from wrong. You've been ticketed by the police repeatedly for not having your youngest children in their car seats while you drive a car. Your "new", or latest husband, has been ticketed for open liqour containers while you drive the vehicle with your babies in the car with him drinking alcohol. You live off welfare, and refuse to work. Go figure. You raised Kyle and he commits criminal activity "

    well go figure wrote on Jun 27, 2009 6:34 AM:

    " Madmom, it takes two people to make a child. Both people become parents when the child is born. Where is Kyle's father? You're blaming everyone for your childs criminal activity. You say it isn't your fault, Did Kyles dad teach him it was ok to break into schools? I don't think so. You raised Kyle, like you are raising your other three kids. Three kids from three different fathers, maybe Kyle never had the chance to learn right from wrong from you. You simply don't know the concept to begin with. "

    Filly wrote on Jun 27, 2009 6:11 AM:

    " Don't be so quick to criticize. What is English glass? "

    sad wrote on Jun 27, 2009 5:31 AM:

    " Can you really blame the parents.Or the city. I raised my child inside chruch.Everyday I was there for him.And at 15 he started getting in trouble.By 18 he was in prison.And I was there I talked to him and I knew him.
    I did all the postive and still lost. So everyone bashing on the parents. Really should not. To judge is to judged.What we need to do is help clean our school.And pray for the kids ......... "

    mad mom wrote on Jun 27, 2009 5:19 AM:

    " To all of Safford. Maybe you find something for the kids to do .Thats postive instead of just trashing my kid. Of course we tried he had alot of love and support .He had his real mom his dad He has me and his grandmother . Everyone is quick to blame but like some else said at 17 a child knows right from wrong.And what happiened is sad and dont think it hasnt effected his family .But isnt it natural to stand up for your child.And censored no worries to you .One day you will be in theese shoes "

    mad mom wrote on Jun 27, 2009 5:05 AM:

    " You know its easy to sit judge . Dont the people of Safford have better things to do. As for the person linking to the family tree. Thats all you have ever done is judge. So dont sit and say Kyle raised himself . When you know better. I know who are and it really dosent suprise me. We can we see the light. And maybe you could have done so much better. Maybe the truth is you couldnt raise your own kids, You just paid thir way huh, So back into your big house and dont judge Kyle. "

    Jose H wrote on Jun 27, 2009 3:46 AM:

    " To I DO BELIEVE, First of all we arent here to get all our Puncuations right we are just here to leave a comment on a story that the courier wrote and how about you try to type that all on an iPhone. So of course your gunna make mistakes because its a mobile device and plus im almost sure you havent even used an iPhone. i was just mad about mad mom blaming Gila Preparatory Academy so i was writing fast. "

    Uncensored wrote on Jun 27, 2009 12:06 AM:

    " To Censored:

    Not that I'm an affiliate of the EA Courier, but check this out: freedom of speech does not apply when the newspaper is a privately owned entity. If this were a government-run media base, then the 1st amendment would certainly apply. But it's a private business and can edit and censor anything it sees fit.

    But I see your point. Exercise your 1st amendment rights as much as possible. With the steps the government is taking, those rights may not be around long... "

    tired of stupidity wrote on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM:

    " these days so many people bash any religion, but ill tell you one thing, any religion teaches good values, and if you follow them, it is easy to be sucsessful in life.
    you were right about another thing. it takes a village to raise a child but it starts at home. you have to nip things in the bud. if you dont you are teaching them it is alright to act stupid.
    maybe i was rude. i apologize. but just like most people "IM TIRED OF SUPIDITY" "

    tired of stupidity wrote on Jun 26, 2009 10:00 PM:

    " it wasnt any ones fault but my own. you are right about one thing, you cant controll them when they are out of your sight. that is what you have to fix, somehow.
    i do have chilren. my oldest is thirteen. he has never been in trouble. he has never even been to the principals office. i consider my self lucky but i also believe it has alot to do with the values that i have taught them. when was the last time you took him to church? (cont.) "

    tired of stupidity wrote on Jun 26, 2009 9:52 PM:

    " too mad mom, the apple didnt fall far from the tree, did it? thank you so much for proving my point. you have the chance right now to teach your son to face what he has done and take his punishment like a man. instead, with your comments, you are teaching him it is not his fault that he is the way he is.
    I was young once. i got in trouble for using fireworks. the police brought me home. my mom made sure i didnt get in trouble again. (cont.) "

    I do believe.. wrote on Jun 26, 2009 8:40 PM:

    " Jose H. must've been raised by MadMom. Neither must have a dictionary or did not pay attention in English glass in school. Jose says Gila Prep school has the best teachers. I bet if any of those teachers read his grammar they'll be embarrased. LOL "

    TO mad mom wrote on Jun 26, 2009 8:33 PM:

    " You cannot even spell nor write correctly. No wonder your child is out past curfew or out causing trouble. Don't blame anything your child does on anyone else but yourself. Your first mistake as a parent was plainly becoming a parent. "

    deanna wrote on Jun 26, 2009 7:47 PM:

    " To mad Mom: You can't blame anyone in the comminty for your sons actions. he is 17, he knows right from wrong and if he doens't...than you have your parenting to blame for that. "

    To Mad Mom wrote on Jun 26, 2009 7:14 PM:

    " When i was that young and out late with friends we were watching movies or hanging out at Jerrys, not vandalizing and breaking and entering. you can't blame the city or anyone else. my parents taught me respect and accountablilty. You can't watch your kids all the time but you can defenintly instill values in them that show when you aren't present. "

    To mad mom wrote on Jun 26, 2009 4:00 PM:

    " You seem to be mad at everyone except your own kid, stop making excuses for him, and yes I've raised 3 teenagers and when they got out of line I didn't blame the town, their schools or the people they hung out with. Seeing the ignorance of your postings tells me the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree where your boy is concerned, and you can be sure he WILL end up in prison if he keeps up this behavior. "

    censored wrote on Jun 26, 2009 2:33 PM:

    " I cant believe the courier keeps censoring my comments. They contain no offensive language and I am actually related to Kyle and wanted to comment on his behavior. What happened to freedom of speech, editor?

    I am 100% certain that Kyle's behavior is from lack of parenting. I KNOW this because I am part of the "family tree". He is only doing what he knows, which is raising himself. I know my grammar is not perfect, however, Mad Mom shows her intelligence in her postings. This explains alot. We'll see if the courier lets this one through.... "

    madman wrote on Jun 26, 2009 2:00 PM:

    " Mad mom, just to let you know when i was younger i got into alot of trouble. however my parents banded me from the friends i use to hang out with, grounded me for 3 months for coming home late. i couldnt leave my house talk on the phone even play video games. and now i have a family of my own a well paying job and i have made my parents proud. while all the "old friends" are in prison or avoiding it right now. you should try and be a parent and step up!!!! "

    Matt wrote on Jun 26, 2009 1:47 PM:

    " Amazing...
    Everyone is to blame, but, the people involved.
    Can you say"accountibility?"
    Nothing happens in a vaccum, it's all cause and effect. The kids learned or didn't learn this type of behavior.
    That simple...
    Will this be the last time we see these names in the newspaper?
    I doubt it.
    Good luck parents, this might be your last chance to commicate values to your children before turning 18 and you longer have legal rights. "

    Jose H wrote on Jun 26, 2009 1:07 PM:

    " and second of all gila prep does watch your kids... they cant control what they do at lunch time cuz its ur kids own responsibility to take care of him or her self at lunch cuz you kno teachers got to eat too!!! and from what i can remember mrs. maxwell and mr. saline would drive around in the school vans and watch for Gila Prep students to make sure they are staying out of trouble. so do not be accusing such a good school. maybe you should accuse your kid of making the bad decisions durring school when theyCANTwatchTHEM. "

    Jose H wrote on Jun 26, 2009 1:04 PM:

    " Okay first of all dont go blaming Gila Preparatory!! They are one of the best school in the Gila Valley. I attended there for 4 year and they taught me alot about school and life. They have some amazing teachers there and where else in the Gila valley have u heard of a school taking a whole grade to sea world for a biology trip? it seems like Mad mom is blaming everyone else but herself. I agree with you on Juvenile Probation but not all the P.O's are bad. Renee was good and ellen the survelence officer was nice.BUTyouMIGHTwantTOthnkWhatYOUsaidOVER. "

    Stinger wrote on Jun 26, 2009 12:59 PM:

    " To mad mom: Now we understand "

    No Wonder wrote on Jun 26, 2009 12:51 PM:

    " mad mom is only making excuses~ no wonder they ended up like this. don't blame Safford, If you don't like it~ leave. As far as nothing to do, start a hobby... learn how to make a quilt... or something. OR let them break into another school! "

    mad mom wrote on Jun 26, 2009 12:05 PM:

    " Safford the city is blame. Because we asked for help from jessica at probation from Trent at protion. Now something big so they make they fineally throw in thier two cents worth i feel sorry for any youth growing up safford that city offers nothing for our young. "

    mad mom wrote on Jun 26, 2009 11:33 AM:

    " May be we should blame Mr.Wilson he is one that made it impossiable for my son to complete school then we can blame Gila Prep for not watching your kid while he was school. Why not blame graham county probation .For not helping or caring when our child passed dirty uas.Why dont blame the doctors for not careing about my child my childs depression. Get real why do want bash on theese kids.You were never young and always perfect . You must be close to christ then . To sit and judge not just the child but the parent "

    mad mom wrote on Jun 26, 2009 11:10 AM:

    " to the person comminting on my child behavier you know nothing and are not a parent yourself.cuz my child is 17 . you are rude . and should be ashamed of your self . when you have a 17 year old . blog and tell me how easy it is. the parents have nothing to with what the child decides to do. and its people who set around judgeing others who have no life. and prison i doubt it my child will never spend a night there so back off and look at own family tree... "

    Matt wrote on Jun 26, 2009 9:01 AM:

    " Uh, break into school, beat a poor defenceless soda machine. That's using your head..and putting your high school education to work.
    Now, I would have been impressed if they broke in to read, in the school library, because they heard they couldn't pay the once ronsidered library fees. Butttt nooooooo!
    Got to be bone heads and ruin their youth.
    Start a band, go camping..something.
    A summer job? Buy your own soda.
    Imagine that? "

    tired of stupidity wrote on Jun 26, 2009 8:09 AM:

    " nice job mom and dad. way to raise good productive kids. pat your self on the back and keep up the good work! arent you proud of your little ones. wait.....maybe you should try a parenting class just in case. no, never mind, its too late now. im sure someone will tell me how good you are and how hard you try but that doesnt change what has happpend. dont worry, prison will eventually staighten them out. "

    honestly wrote on Jun 26, 2009 8:07 AM:

    " Another point. At 11:00 these guys are out and about. Great parenting skills... It's time that parents are held accountable for their delinquents... The boys should be hammered for this, but parents need to parent up. Way too many of these stories the past few weeks. Juvi, is just a waiting place, until the little pains do something big enough to be roomies with Bubba... "

    Non-Sequitur wrote on Jun 26, 2009 7:58 AM:

    " I would hope that somehow these losers will be able to read the comments that this story is sure generate, because they have shown they have little or no future in society. "

    HAJ wrote on Jun 26, 2009 2:11 AM:

    " I know two of these boys and from what i used to know of them is that they are trouble makers!!! from what i read in the article every one of them was blaming each other but when they talk to there friends they say that they will never nark or blame anyone. Come on you guys MAN UP and stop playing the blame game!!!! I bet as soon as the detective entered the room to interview you i bet the whole maning up and taking blame for what u did left and u and all u thought bout WASblamingTHEotherPERSON. "

    Bella wrote on Jun 25, 2009 1:09 PM:

    " What losers. "

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