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2 weeks wrote on Sep 1, 2009 1:20 PM:

" 37 days "




Not from Safford wrote on Aug 31, 2009 6:46 PM:

" Why does it matter so much that a Temple is being built. It will bring Morman visitor for Weddings and special services. They will need places to stay and food ect... Bringing business to a valley where it is needed. Who cares what church it is? No I'm not Morman. "




2 Weeks wrote on Aug 31, 2009 9:44 AM:

" or it could be because the Courier loves controversy so the comments will drive up web traffic and advertising revenues. "




MormonDude wrote on Aug 29, 2009 12:43 AM:

" Hey 2 weeks-

This article is still on the board because people just like you continue to comment on it. Looks like the Courier wants the voice of the people to be heard... good on them!

To everybody else-

In all reality, is it really going to ruin anyone's day if the LDS church builds another temple? Quite the contrary. History shows that areas with a temple tend to prosper, AND NOT JUST FOR MORMONS. Mormons aren't Islamic jihadists, trying to force their religion on everyone. So...chill out. You do your thing, we'll do ours. "




2 Weeks wrote on Aug 28, 2009 1:44 PM:

" I love how all articles relating to mormons stay on the Courier's comment boards FOREVER. This article is a month old. Enough already. "




Sad to say wrote on Aug 28, 2009 1:18 PM:

" People on here have gotten way out of hand with their comments and "opinions". People use their "freedom of speech" as a right to sit and bash on others, to be mean to one another.I am not LDS, but I dont think its right how people are bashing on this religion. If you don't believe in what they do, thats fine, but you wouldn't like it if they were attacking you for what you believe in. I thought this was a site for adults?? You people act as bad as kids on MYSPACE!! "




Rebel Soul wrote on Aug 27, 2009 11:34 PM:

" Yeah..I couldn't sleep, so went for a drive to clear my head. Suddenly see this thing or object that wasn't there before.
Woopie..
Churches, churches everywhere churches.
What in a town without a soul.
Look at the unemployment rate. People leaving the town for greater opportunities and we see what's left. A bunch of rich, well to do's that controlled the town in the first place.
Put that same money spent building that thing and see oh yeah..a community spirit.
But nooooooo..
Narrow belief and churches, churches everywhere churches. "




just wondering wrote on Aug 27, 2009 6:28 PM:

" I have to wonder if there would be so many negitive comments made if this were a place of worship for another religion? Imagine people making negitive comments about a Jewish temple going in? A person would be labeled anti-semetic. I'm under the impression that we live in a country that allows all people religous freedom. Why would those against the temple even worry about a flood zone? As a citizen of the USA and a member of the LDS church I believe everyone has the right to worship how, where and what they may. Please allow us the same. "




Easier To Remember wrote on Aug 27, 2009 5:37 PM:

" Temple By The Tracks "




Matt wrote on Aug 27, 2009 2:57 PM:

" Uh, of course the hypothesis is.. I wonder, if they have power and influence?
No, I don't like the temple being here.
Normal people now assume everybody that lives here is a ....
Yet, those in control.
You believe they are harmless? Look at Prop 102, the wicked shall have power, into California politics.
No stoppin' 'em..
Temples?
What next?
More power, little resistance? "




Lee wrote on Aug 26, 2009 8:40 AM:

" Mormon did not bury the plates. His son Moroni did. Mormon "abridged" the many plates into what we now have as the Book of Mormon but he did not bury them. "




Happy wrote on Aug 25, 2009 5:58 PM:

" Life is good, God is great, and people are crazy :) "




Lori wrote on Aug 25, 2009 2:39 PM:

" "Let us oft speak kind words to each other
At home or where’er we may be;
Like the warblings of birds on the heather,
The tones will be welcome and free.
They’ll gladden the heart that’s repining,
Give courage and hope from above,
And where the dark clouds hide the shining,
Let in the bright sunlight of love."
P 232...
Smile, it makes people wonder what you are up too!! LOL!! "




Whoa Hold It There wrote on Aug 24, 2009 8:55 PM:

" Now we've got "Big Box" Religion. Will they sell it at a discount too, or will it still cost ten percent? "




Filly wrote on Aug 21, 2009 7:17 PM:

" Kudos to "Valley Problem" I agree. "




Soldier wrote on Aug 20, 2009 1:30 AM:

" If you don't like living in the Gila Valley...move. It is simple! If you don't want to move then stop complaining. No matter where you go you will find things you don't like...whether it be people, politics, neighborhoods, lack of entertainment, whatever. Just focus on the good and be the best type of person you can be. Who cares about Mormon/Catholic/Sikh/Jewish/Buddhist or any other religion....focus less on that and more on the individuals. If you look for evil you will find evil...if you look for good you will find good. Thats the "nature of the beast" right there! "




Valley Problem wrote on Aug 19, 2009 8:54 PM:

" I would much rather live with an entire valley of Mormons than with the druggies, burglars, thieves and other people who are causing problems around here. It is very rare when a Mormon causes that type of problem. No, I'm not a Mormon, but I respect the ones who live the right kind of life and would rather they be my neighbors than anyone else. "




shakin my head wrote on Aug 19, 2009 8:48 AM:

" embrace it, we gotta roll with the punches. it doesnt matter what you phoney people think the fact of the matter is that it is here to stay. im not mormon and im not opposed to the temple, im not thrilled about it either but who cares. my everyday life is not going to be affected by this building. this community has bigger issues than church building which should be celebrated. if you hate mormons, or any other parts of this town then leave cuz its obvious that there arent gonna be any changes anytime soon. DEAL WITH IT!!!! "




Thank You Soldier wrote on Aug 18, 2009 2:22 PM:

" Agreed, there is a big difference between someone disagreeing and someone who is just completely offended by the temple being built. Disagreement is a wonderful part of our country & freedom. A lot of the posts here are from people who are true "haters" who can't stand to live with mormons in their community. My original comment was direct to them. "




Isnt it interesting wrote on Aug 18, 2009 10:15 AM:

" the temple is being built in a serious flood zone? Isn't there concern that the Central Dam can't hold back much water if we get a lot of rain? Sounds to me there was not much research and planning put into this temple project. Karma can be such a fickle thing. "




To Thank you Soldier... wrote on Aug 18, 2009 10:11 AM:

" Why do you brand all who do not agree with you as "haters"? That is a little too extreme and radical in my opinion. "




Well... wrote on Aug 18, 2009 10:08 AM:

" To to Wondering...Yes, I tried just saying, "I'm not Mormon." Then the next thing they wanted to do was convert me. It became a silly cycle I was not willing to participate in. "




Thank You Soldier wrote on Aug 17, 2009 5:55 PM:

" If only everyone appreciated the freedoms we have been given, maybe they wouldn't be gripping so much about un-important things like church buildings. I'm personally grateful that we live in a country that allows any religion to build a church.

Maybe all of these "haters" would prefer to live in Iraq or Iran where there are no LDS temples. "




to funny thing wrote on Aug 17, 2009 5:50 PM:

" Why don't you ask your city council? They are the ones paying for the Independence Day celebration with public funds. The church pays for Pioneer Day celebrations with it's own money. "




to Wondering wrote on Aug 17, 2009 5:48 PM:

" Why don't you just ask them why they assume you are mormon? Maybe from your appearance and lifestyle they get the impression you're a wholesome person. This should be a compliment. Although, I do think it's inappropriate to ask a stranger that (and I'm LDS).

to Well... It seems extreme that you would change your physical appearance just so people will not ask you a certain question. Seems simpler to just say "I'm not mormon". "




Is Max serious wrote on Aug 17, 2009 9:50 AM:

" Great point, soldier.

Max, what do you consider famous? Professional ball players? Apparently not.... Actors? Apparently not..... Musicians? Apparently not.... Prophet of the LDS church - may not be important to most, but it's still a worldwide organization, whether you agree with it or not. Sounds like you need to do some research. "




Soldier wrote on Aug 16, 2009 3:55 AM:

" cont...

There are more, but let me wrap this up by adding one more name to this list...

CPL Schuck, Brandon S. 06FEB2006 Baghdad, Iraq.

Do you remember where you were when you heard that Brandon had been killed? I do. I remember EXACTLY where I was when I found out. He is one of my heroes!

As a forward deployed Soldier in the United States Army all of these men who have gone before are my heroes...they have made a huge contribution to my life and YOUR freedom. "




Soldier wrote on Aug 16, 2009 3:49 AM:

" " even Globe has a known individual famous for their contribution. " -Max

I'll give you a list of just a few men who made SIGNIFICANT contributions. Their names will be followed by the date of their death and where they were killed in action:

2LT Chandler, Walter R 24March1945 Germany

SSgt Clawson, Harry Allen 06October1945 Opheusden

PVT Quintana, Manuel M 27July1950

PFC Nead, Franklin Elwood 3September1966 S. Vietnam

Pvt Dunagan, Michael Dennis 01September1966 S. Vietnam

Sgt Foote, Walter Bruce 06March1970 S. Vietnam

SSgt Calven, Thomas James 12August1975 S. Vietnam "




Reason wrote on Aug 14, 2009 9:23 PM:

" JoePublic: "it is about control and power", you've got to be kidding! that's why the Temple's being built? That's why churches are built? That's why people that want to do good and lead good lives and teach their children to contribute to society go to church? For control and power? Over what?

There is less concern over a liquor store being built and the resulting DUI drivers (JoePublic waxing ridiculous there as well). Wal Mart came in and all but destroyed the small businesses that used to be in this area. Now that’s control and POWER! "




Max wrote on Aug 14, 2009 7:43 PM:

" Hey..ever ask yourself;" why is there no famous people from Safford?" It's clear..to me. Since childhood, that church down the road has all the answer, look no further.
It's a town not know for it's culture or progressive thinking. Bisbee, great little town, Prescott, even Globe has a known individual famous for their contribution. A hundred years from now..Safford will still be a town with several churches per square miles, yet, will never produce a genius. Not in a town that is so quick to conform what has been thought before.. "




To To Swamp Donkey wrote on Aug 14, 2009 5:19 PM:

" I think you should use Urban Dictionary. "




JoePublic wrote on Aug 14, 2009 12:23 PM:

" Yes, I have read, second richest organization in the world. Next to the ...
And it is about control and power and building churches in little towns, that is their numbers and strenght.
I don't brag on the internet, look how many guitar strings or numbers of guitars I have. Why? Because I don't have an ulterior motive, like people that boost of their great numbers.
Millions and millions, believe like us and we have the churches on the side of the road to prove it.
Yawn, I am not impressed. "




The More We wrote on Aug 14, 2009 9:35 AM:

" Non-Mormons complain about the mormons, the more control they are PERCEIVED to have. Really, they are not as strong and powerful as they like to puff themselves up to be. So, Non-Mormons, get off your butts and run for office, stand up for what you feel is right and don't sit down when you see a wrong. Show the mormons who is really in charge and who outnumbers who. "




To Swamp Donkey wrote on Aug 14, 2009 9:17 AM:

" What does that mean..."making clay"? And if you are sick of reading this stuff, just stop. No big deal. "




Swamp Donkey wrote on Aug 13, 2009 4:31 PM:

" I'm sick of reading this stuff about making clay. "




Al Bundy wrote on Aug 13, 2009 4:25 PM:

" Its a mad, mad Al Bundy world out there, thank god for Bigguns and Girly girl beer. "




Well... wrote on Aug 13, 2009 4:24 PM:

" To Wondering...I was getting the same question a lot too. So, to stop it, I had my ears pierced with three holes. I wear simple, tasteful gold studs, three in a row in each ear. Now no one asks me what ward I am in because Mormons don't believe in that sort of thing. In any other community I fit in nicely. In "The Gila Valley" it is my non-Mormon mark. Good luck to you...I know that question does get tiresome. "




to wondering wrote on Aug 13, 2009 3:33 PM:

" go get a tattoo that will stop them or jpoin sooner or later they will know you, however my compliments on living a at least visually clean life "




Wondering wrote on Aug 13, 2009 7:19 AM:

" Why is it almost everyday someone will ask me "What Ward are you in?" is this their way to see if I am a mormon? what does it matter... and really who cares...Just wondering cause they ask me alot. It gets old.. now don't start blogging me anti mormon... I just asked a simple question "




Fred wrote on Aug 12, 2009 10:00 PM:

" Christians call it the Great Apostasy which led to centuries of spiritual stagnation and ignorance often called the DARK AGES by the rest of the world. It was a natural consequence of bad choices made by individuals, communities, countries, and entire civilizations and the suffering and stagnation was rampant.

If you don't think that our civilization is falling apart in this country take a look at the comments left here by GOOD CHRISTIAN PEOPLE.

Reminder: Tolerance is a Christ-like virtue (No. Obama didn't invent it) "




to funny thing wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:23 PM:

" Were you a participant in the independence day parade? If you answered no, then that is why the pioneer day parade is large, they care and particpiate.
I suggest that next year to go out round all of your Mormon hating friends and get them to enter the indpendence day parade. "




Shaesca wrote on Aug 12, 2009 3:40 PM:

" To Really...I refuse to bite and never get into a peeing contests with skunks. "




The Myth Continues wrote on Aug 12, 2009 3:36 PM:

" It is all but a myth conjured up by charlatans.

Oh yes, the chosen ones! "




I Mormon wrote on Aug 12, 2009 12:25 PM:

" Truly an awesome testimony of one who would not and could not deny the truth. Oh and by the way he was shot for these beliefs I ask you what selfish purpose could he possibly of had other than an eternal one. Am I Mormon? Yup True Blue through and through "




I mormon wrote on Aug 12, 2009 12:21 PM:

" the Book of Mormon was buried by Mormon( thus the name) who was a descendant of the same people as the american indians and incas. It was translated by the prophet Joseph Smith(Heaven forbid a prophet from translating) "other sheep I have which are not of this fold" talks about this. The Church of JESUS CHRIST (the same) of Latter Day Saints will stand the test of time no matter what you do to break it down. We have been persecuted and martyrd to no end. If you ever get a chance read Joseph Smiths testimony "




WOOOP wrote on Aug 11, 2009 9:33 PM:

" REALLY KINDA JUST MAKES ME WANNA PUKE! "




Jude wrote on Aug 11, 2009 9:09 PM:

" To Amen, what God would you be referring to? LDS are Christians who believe in God and Jesus Christ. Do you mean some other God or what because it doesn't seem like you are a Christian if you mock a church of Jesus Christ! Hello! It's right in their name. How more stupid can you get if you don't know they are Christians. By the way, isnt' the dominant religion in the Valley the Catholics? It is in Safford at least. Maybe that's why the city is always in trouble and its residents in the news. "




Really wrote on Aug 11, 2009 8:54 PM:

" Shaesca, it is evident you have no clue what you are even talking about. I point out you say you have moved away yet can't resist returning to comment on this site and you say I am ignorant. Where is the ignorance? Did I say something incorrect? You truly are a cancer, and the world would be better without you venting your ignorance. It truly is stupid to insult someone just because they don't agree with you or believe in your beliefs. Isn't that what you have been complaining about yourself? Splurge and get the counseling you need. "




AMEN wrote on Aug 11, 2009 7:08 PM:

" No Mas you hit that one straight on!!!! Praises

I pray these people can find the one and only GOD! He is wonderful! Good works alone will not get you to heaven you must be born again. "




Shaesca wrote on Aug 11, 2009 5:13 PM:

" To Really...Oops! Your ignorance and arrogance is showing again....Better tuck it up under your halo or someone just might get a glimpse of your true nature. "




No Mas wrote on Aug 11, 2009 4:00 PM:

" There is a perception of dominance by the one leading religion in the Gila Valley. As long as this perception represents reality for non-members, there will be this vitriol regarding that religion.

Many non-members have witnessed discrimination and favoritism here in the Gila Valley--believe it or not. As long as this continues, there will continue to be a rift among people in this area.

I personally am tired of front page articles on all that is Mormon. Put them ins the religion section only. Enough already! "




funny thing wrote on Aug 11, 2009 2:42 PM:

" why is it that the pioneer days celebration are always, always better than our independence day celebration? just a thought!! what's more important?!?! "




Funny Thing wrote on Aug 11, 2009 2:38 PM:

" I looked up the history of the gila valley towns on wikipedia.. you're right they do tell all about the mormans.. but the funny thing is that there is no record of it on britanica web site or encyclopedia.com. plus... wikipedia you can add and edit whatever you want it says so right on the first page so I am almost certain that the information was put there by the mormans. "




re TO UM wrote on Aug 11, 2009 9:12 AM:

" Years to become Mormon? You obviously don't know as much as you think you do about that religion. Would any religion agree with all this hate? I f you are not Mormon, then why care if a Temple is built? It will do nothing but bring people into our town to eat, shop and stay in our hotels. Would that not benifit us all? People without a life sit on this and blog mean things just to have something to do. I feel sorry for you. "




Tide wrote on Aug 10, 2009 8:39 PM:

" I will Tide if I can Sheck it out ! "




Really wrote on Aug 10, 2009 4:33 PM:

" Shaesca, you say you've moved away, yet you cannot help yourself from returning to the newspaper's Web site and commenting on topics going on here? Looks like you are drawn to this area more than you'd like to admit. "




Shaesca wrote on Aug 10, 2009 3:09 PM:

" To its really sad...You are right, it is really sad that the gila valley is so backward that enlightened people can no longer tolerate the ignorance and arrogance of most of the people who live there. I have moved away just to save my sanity and find people who think outside the steel and concrete box. What a breath of fresh air it is! "




its really sad wrote on Aug 10, 2009 4:31 AM:

" I'm embarrased at what a smalll minded community I live in. Nobody has anything better to do then talk about what a horrible thing it is to live around so many mormans? We look like a bunch of hillbillies with tourches and pitchforks to other communities. As for the guy that made the buying your way into heaven comment. Most religions have some form of tithing it's mentioned a couple of times in the Bible you should read about it. I'll give you a place to start Leviticus 27: 30-32. As for everyone else take off the white wigs "




Lets get along wrote on Aug 9, 2009 10:46 AM:

" We Are the World, we are the children, we are the ones who make a brighter day, so let's start giving! "




Off topic wrote on Aug 9, 2009 4:42 AM:

" I don't understand how a news story about the progression of construction on the temple went from an update to a religion bashing, come on now people enough is enough. No I am not sticking up for one religion or another I am just tired of always reading these mean negative comments that people write. They find negativity in every story printed in the paper thats good or bad, does anyone have anything nice to say any more? "




to TOBS wrote on Aug 8, 2009 12:56 PM:

" sounds like you have your own man made religion "




to everybody wrote on Aug 8, 2009 12:53 PM:

" we had a bum show up in our ward and he gave a very good testimony on how not to live life you say to many mormons I say too many hippies "




to the people wrote on Aug 8, 2009 12:45 PM:

" The temple is a sacred place open to everyone who makes there life focus around eternal goals and becomes worthy to enter the celestial kingdom (heaven) if you degrade yourself your body and your family it is not our fault that you do not consider your self worthy to enter ( we do not practice rasiscm segregation or any other hate crimes as a whole however individuals are succeptable to sin like every other mortal so hold tight to your righteous desires members because some will try to take them away (including bigoted members) "




Filly wrote on Aug 8, 2009 9:01 AM:

" Sounds to me like there is alot of jealousy going on here and alot of mis-informed people. There's alot of people bashing on here that will be at the front of the line when its open to the public to see. It's a free country so go build your own beautiful building if it bothers you that much. "




Duhh wrote on Aug 8, 2009 2:25 AM:

" Of course you have to obey their rules to enter their temple. It's their temple. If you built a temple you could make your own rules on who to let in or not. Why are you people so hung up on this? If you are not Mormon, why in the world would you want to go inside their temple for their services? And why are you so upset they won't let you in. Face it, I guess they don't want to sully their temple with scum like you. I wouldn't let you in a temple if I built it either., "




to UM wrote on Aug 7, 2009 8:20 PM:

" This in no way can compare to a baseball game. It takes years to become a mormon. You certainly are not going to win any followers with that attitude. You want people to join, however will not tell them the true meaning of this church. Everything is a big seceret. I have studied the practices of mormonism and it sure not something I want to be. You can google it and decide for yourself. Its really sad when I am a NON LDS and I know more about their religon than they do. Bring the missionaries on! Duel! "




all i want wrote on Aug 7, 2009 8:05 PM:

" I LOVE TAYLOR "




Yo Um wrote on Aug 7, 2009 5:55 PM:

" I have a sense of trust and you want to correct my spelling?
At least I know God loves me and I don't have to join a group that is into the prison of religion thing..
See I'm looking for my way.
You adopted yours by someone you'll never meet.
Can you say.,. I woke this morning with an innocent love of the truth? Of course you can't..
You're to busy correcting my spelling
Focus on you not me.. "




To UM wrote on Aug 7, 2009 5:52 PM:

" Well of course EVERYONE can go to the temple, as long as you join the church and OBEY their rules, and most importantly, pay, pay, pay. It's all about the almighty dollar to these people. Even devout Mormons can't get into their own temples if they are not current on paying their 10%. I personally don't know of any other religion that would do this. Guess they're trying to buy their way into heaven. "




I am LDS wrote on Aug 7, 2009 3:33 PM:

" I am LDS and I think the building will be beautiful and lovely when finished and I know they will have nice grounds around it But for the life of me I can not understand why that location. I do not like it, would prefer to say I hate it. The railroad track is to close, the mountain background is wonderful but the rail road tracks!!
Guess Brother Mark Bryce wanted it to look out at granma and granpa Smith old homestead. "




Um... wrote on Aug 7, 2009 2:32 PM:

" Hey Matt...what is "hypothize"? Are you saying "hypnotize" or "hypothisize". There are lots of religions that are extreme to those who don't take the time to understand it. Many people miss is that everyone CAN go, but you just have to follow the rules. Not everyone is willing to do that. If you go to a baseball game, you have to follow the rules or you can't attend.

I would love to see a new catholic/ baptist/presbyterian building go up with or without stainedglass windows. There are stained glass windows inside the Snowflake Temple. Hmmm, who knew? "




Hooray wrote on Aug 7, 2009 12:22 PM:

" Oh yeah!

I feel better already just knowing that it will be here. "




Matt wrote on Aug 7, 2009 12:02 PM:

" "Embrace something beautiful?" Is that anything like the hypothize will never lie?
Imagine just for a second if this valley was settled by normal people and not extremist? Calm down..I'm making a point here.
That temple would have been meant for everyone..not a select group.
American is the land of the free..
Then why set yourselves apart?
Perhaps, there is another country the temple people can go too? Since they hate everybody that is not like them?
Wonderful site?
You're kidding, right? "




Mama wrote on Aug 7, 2009 9:14 AM:

" It is easy to be nameless and faceless and say rude things, especially if you know nothing about it. A temple isn't "just another building". There are 129 operating temples WORLD WIDE. How awesome to have one here. If you're curious about this so called "spooky" and "cultlike" building, come to the open house. Those who pull the "race" card, there are now more members outside the US than inside. Nice try. Charity, gratitude and respect are from God not hatred and malice. There is so much gloomy stuff happening now. Embrace something beautiful. You'll feel better. "




C Allen wrote on Aug 7, 2009 12:08 AM:

" to T Allen Yeah Yeah, give it to them bro "




What wrote on Aug 6, 2009 5:52 PM:

" The picture already shows 6 windows in the building. It looks like there are going to be windows all over it.

Some postings just don't make any sense. "




Casual Observer wrote on Aug 6, 2009 12:01 PM:

" Yup, it's a mini-Mesa temple.
Got that strong institional order look.
Right out of the 19th Century.
Throw it up like a Walmart building and call it holy? How vain..
Cars zooming by at 55 mph hour.
Put it some place serene..in the middle of a field of flowers.
Drive in like a hamburger stand..
Get your high and mighty french fries here... "




Well... wrote on Aug 6, 2009 10:10 AM:

" To It's Funny...I agree with you. That building looks like a massive mausoleum. No windows in that place...someone might see the things that go on in there. It is all very cult-like in my opinion. Secretive and spooky. Craziness at it's highest peak. "




ITs Funny wrote on Aug 5, 2009 7:19 PM:

" Its funny how people are talking about how beautiful this building is. I just don't see that. Looks like huge concrete walls to me. Like a tomb. Why did they not make it like a cathedral with beautiful stained glass. Sorry....Just not what I expected.... "




EEWWWW wrote on Aug 5, 2009 6:16 PM:

" More of them around here icky! "




T Allen wrote on Aug 5, 2009 9:16 AM:

" It's sad that people can't welcome a new and beautiful building unlike any other in the Gila Valley. Regardless of your religious beliefs it's a nice thing to have in your community. The temple and surrounding grounds will be beautifully maintained. It will lift the profile of the Gila Valley. EAC does the same with nice buildings, grounds. The temple will serve people outside this valley. They will eat at restaurants, buy gas, etc. It won't interfere or intrude one bit on people who aren't LDS and want nothing to do with them. "




Valerie wrote on Aug 5, 2009 6:52 AM:

" Please people keep to the subject at hand , the temple being built. I think it is wonderful that we have temple coming to the valley. Look at the outcome of this. It is going to be a wonderful boost to our economy.
No I am not Mormon but This is America, we all have the right and freedom to choose what religion we are or to choose no religion. People of the Mormon faith are just like you and me, and all religions have a scared place of worship whether that religion has a Temple or not. "




to Ha Ha wrote on Aug 4, 2009 11:11 PM:

" Yes, we believe we have not only a heavenly father but a heavenly mother and Jesus is our elder brother. You probably have never heard that before have you?
If you would truly study our religion and not just yell and criticiize you might find out some interesting facts about us.
We believe in God , his son Jesus, the Holy Ghost, we know that Lucifer (Satan or the Devil) works among people on this earth. I would say that much of the blogs on these articles are the works of Lucifer. God bless "




No Im Not LDS2 wrote on Aug 4, 2009 8:29 PM:

" Who Really Cares??????? "




TOBS wrote on Aug 4, 2009 5:00 PM:

" does it really matter when jesus comes back or where he comes back?? if you ask me AS LONG AS i live in a manor honesty, help anyone whenever or however i can, teach my kids right from wrong, respect people, ... i can go on and on. i am a firm beliver in christ our lord. i do not agree with religion though. it is purly man made. as long as i make every attempt to live christ like, and am truley sorry for my sins why would i be denied into heaven? "




befl wrote on Aug 4, 2009 12:42 PM:

" i have (almost) nothing against mormons. half of my family is mormon. the other half catholic. my only comment is why? do we really need another mormon church in this community? there are only about fifty! look at the phone book...under "church" the mormons take up the whole page! every corner in safford has the same generic mormon church set up. do we really need another? and not only another, but a temple! jeez....i don't care how many mexicans there are in this county, the mormons rule. and that's not always a good thing. "




HA HA wrote on Aug 4, 2009 7:10 AM:

" Heavanly MOTHER! oh now thats a good one. In all my years of living here in mormonville I have never heard that one. "




out of control wrote on Aug 3, 2009 11:56 PM:

" This is out of contol you need to get a life and quit commenting back and forth about what you wear to church , court and on the streets this article is not about what you wear. stick to what the article is about. "




to To the temple wrote on Aug 3, 2009 8:49 PM:

" Look up the history of the towns in the gila valley on wikipedia and you will find the truth. "




Ease up wrote on Aug 3, 2009 5:37 PM:

" I don't think most people would agree with your definition of "street clothes". If those are your "street clothes" however, I don't see any reason you would not be dressed appropriately for a church meeting. Ease up on the hate and don't be so one track minded. "




To dress for success wrote on Aug 3, 2009 4:16 PM:

" I have never been to court before, but if I did, yes I would wear street clothes in front of the judge, meaning dress pants and nice shirt, since thats the kind of street clothes I wear. Most people don't go around all the time looking like teenage thugs with their pants around their legs you know. And when I stand before God, I'm sure he won't be judging me by what I wear. In fact we'll probley all be standing naked in front of him so it won't matter anyway. "




To Why Is It wrote on Aug 3, 2009 3:55 PM:

" We have way to much respect for our Heavenly Mother to let people of your mantality take her name in vain. Look at how people treat Hevenly Fathers name as well as Christ name, not to great. Women are respected and looked up to in the LDS church much more than our society treats women. Of course I guess it's ok in our world today to disrespect women, something you will not find in the LDS church. WHY IS IT thought they were being funny instead they showed their ignorance of how it really is. Great job Why Is It. "




Why is it wrote on Aug 3, 2009 2:42 PM:

" Why do refer to the "Heavenly Father"?

Why is it not the "Heavenly Mother"?

Oh, I forgot that women have a subservient role in your church. My bad. "




Dress for success wrote on Aug 3, 2009 12:57 PM:

" Wearing proper clothing in church shows respect for God. Wearing street clothes shows you have no respect. Are you one of those ill-informed people that wear street clothes in court? There is a dress code for when you face a courtroom judge, and he is only an earthly judge! What do you think is appropriate attire when before our Heavenly Father? "




to To the Temple wrote on Aug 3, 2009 12:25 PM:

" Obviously, the posting is referring to latter-day settlements. Nobody argues the fact that Native Americans and Mexicans were here first. This doesn't change the fact that mormons established many of the existing communities in this valley.

It's odd that such simple comments "infuriate" you. "




To wrong again. wrote on Aug 3, 2009 12:24 PM:

" You say its hard to have spirt in a room when many people are wearing inappropriate clothing, why is that? What difference does it make what others are wearing, are you too busy putting them down in your minds to concentrate on the church service? Do you think your better than someone who comes to church wearing normal street clothes? What shallow minded, snobby people you must be. "




Wrong Again wrote on Aug 3, 2009 12:19 PM:

" As I already said, "There are no dress requirements in a mormon chapel". Yes, the missionaries are required to wear shirts and ties. Yes, the temple has a dress requirement. This does not change my original post that everyone is invited into our chapels (these are buildings separate from the temples). There are no dress requirements to attend weekly church meetings in our chapels.

And yes, our savior wore sandals and a robe. This was proper attire during his life on earth. "




To the Temple wrote on Aug 3, 2009 11:26 AM:

" When you say that "this Valley was established by Mormons", you are far off base. The Indians were here for centuries before and then the Mexicans who had a thriving culture (which still exists) many decades before the first Mormon set foot in the Gila Valley. For that matter, Jewish pioneers were instrumental in the development not only of the Gila Valley (I.E. Solomon) but Metcalf and Morenci also (the Lezinsky brothers) before the first Mormons came to the Valley. It is your type of comment which is so infuriating to the substantial non-Mormon population of the area. "




the temple wrote on Aug 3, 2009 12:54 AM:

" Why are the LDS scrutinized for what they believe. Are others really that insecure about their religious beliefs, that they feel the need to bash the mormons. If you dont like mormons maybe this is not the place to be since this valley was established by mormons. "




Not All Good Everywhere wrote on Aug 3, 2009 12:12 AM:

" @Educated Convert: I am glad that you are happy with your selection.

My personal experience differed greatly in my visits to several Stakes in Arizona. While these visits are not necessarily indicative of all in the religion, I found that there were the same issues in these churches as are found in many other churches of different faiths. There is a hierarchy that is deep seated within the organization that is not very welcoming to outsiders.

There are good ones as well as bad ones like any other religion's membership. They are people with faults. "




Educated Convert wrote on Aug 2, 2009 3:58 PM:

" Actually I was an all-state football and basketball star in California. My wife and I were some of the most popular kids in school. We drank, partied and everyone invited us to their parties. The problem is, that type of lifestyle wasn't fuflilling to me. After college, we went through a good number of missionaries before deciding to visit a church for ourselves. What we found there was a place of peace with loving, nonjudgmental people who cared for our well being. We like it, I don't care if you can't understand. It is good for my family. "




What if... wrote on Aug 2, 2009 2:32 PM:

" Educated Convert was just a silly, nerdy kid and young adult that no one liked and was probably never going to have many friends? Now he and his "educated" wife find a cult that love them and they can't resist the pull of contrived religious acceptance not knowing how phony that friendliness really is. You, sir, sound pathetic, to say the least. "




Educated Convert wrote on Aug 2, 2009 12:33 PM:

" Well, my wife and I are two converts to the church and we both have our doctorates. We converted in our 20's, were never raised in the church (I actually thought they were looney as a kid) and came to the decision, after much study, that this was the church for us. If it's not for you, oh well. But you have to be a sick individual to go about bashing such a fine institution filled with good people. I've been to many different churches, and the LDS is the most friendly by far in my opinion. "




To temple wrote on Aug 2, 2009 11:57 AM:

" Alot of people have EDUCATED themselves on the Mormon religion, thats why we find it to be so far fetched and ridiculous. I guess if your born into it and brainwashed since birth you just accept its teachings and never question it. The concept of you all becoming Gods in the afterlife is just plain silly, what ego's you must have. "




temple wrote on Aug 1, 2009 10:57 PM:

" The temple will be great for the gila valley wether you mormon or not. it will mean more money spent in our community at hotels, restaurants, etc... and for those who want in, an open house is held after completion for any and all that want to see the inside before it is dedicated. And for those who hate mormons try and educate yourself on the religion before the name calling begins. "




Excuse me... wrote on Aug 1, 2009 10:01 PM:

" No dress code?? Then what's up with the funny underwear you are required to purchase from the church and wear at all times? What about the all white temple garments you must wear when entering that "sacred" place? What about those boys in white shirts, black pants and ties? Missionaries are required to wear that attire all the time. No Dress code?...You make me laugh with your uppity "not me and not us" diatribes. Get real! "




fed up wrote on Jul 31, 2009 5:41 PM:

" Do you know how snooty and uppity you sound?? Your savior wore sandals and a robe, do you think he gives a hoot about what your wearing in church? And I looked up the LDS website, and they DO have a dress code. You guys always come across as high and mighty and better than everyone else, and its getting pretty old. "




Wrong Again wrote on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM:

" Once again, your statements are not accurate. Nobody is turned away from the church because of their clothing. Also, there are many members who attend weekly meetings in our chapels that do not have temple recommends. This is not a requirement for membership. "




To no no no wrote on Jul 31, 2009 1:34 PM:

" I agree, I know you shouldn't show up in church looking like a bum if you can help it, but if your going to hear the word of God it shouldn't matter what you wear, and I'll be darned if I would ever want to be a member of a church that would turn me away because of my attire, or lack of membership card... "




Wrong Again wrote on Jul 31, 2009 1:12 PM:

" There are no dress requirements in a mormon chapel. You will see most of the members in shirts & ties and dresses because we believe in showing respect to our saviour by wearing nice clothes in our chapels. It's hard to have the spirit in a room if many people are wearing inappropirate clothing. With that said, nobody should ever be asked to leave simply because they are wearing jeans. We are taught to embrace all visitors from all walks of life. "




NO NO NO wrote on Jul 30, 2009 2:56 PM:

" I have never been into any other church that required a person to dress a certain way as the LDS church does. We went into a Baptist and Catholic church in our jeans and nice shirts and no one said a word. But when we were invited to attend a mormon church we were told the guys had to wear white shirts and ties and the ladies were to wear dresses or skirts. To much control if you ask me. I'll never be mormon thats for sure. "




Gila Valley Viewer wrote on Jul 30, 2009 1:25 PM:

" "Stonecold" If you don't want to be a Mormon, why would you want to go into their temple? What do you care if they build a building for their worship, are you Satan? Who cares if the Mormons build their temple, I don't.
Would you act this way if a Jewish or Catholic place of worship was being built with church money on church grounds? I don't think so. You are just a bigot, plain and simple. "




To HDE wrote on Jul 30, 2009 12:47 PM:

" Boo hoo. It's not like hispanics or other minorities have a shortage of opportunities in this country. When I went to get financing to start my business the first question on every lender's form is: Are you Hispanic, African American, or a woman? I was disqualified from 90% of the programs because they absolutely DO NOT finance white males. I think that's smart that they give members of their church preference. If there was a job at my church I'd hope that they would give preference to someone from our own congregation first. "




Contractor wrote on Jul 30, 2009 10:56 AM:

" To "Stone Cold" One, I am not LDS, and two, anyone can go into any of the LDS' churches, just like your church. I'm Baptist and yes they even let me in, no questions asked. The temple is their most sacred place, so yes, only approved members can attend. Get your facts straight and stop spreading stupid rumors. Can't we all love God and get along together? "




to Heres a thought wrote on Jul 30, 2009 9:41 AM:

" It is a very common occurance for the members of the LDS church to hold special fasts for more rain and in most meetings, it is rare to hear someone give a prayer without praying for rain. "




stonecold wrote on Jul 30, 2009 9:10 AM:

" ok what rain has to do with what. and to the the contractor. stop sugar coating it. we all know how you LDS guys works. Its not even funny anymore. What is the use of temple I can't even go inside of it cause im not mormon and dont want to be. Well at least my church has there doors open and it don't matter what religion you are or don't have to be a member of it either. "




Contractor wrote on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM:

" By no ties I mean they are not a church owned construction company. Of course some members of the company are LDS, they are from Salt Lake City. "




Weather Man wrote on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 PM:

" "Thought" You don't know much. The LDS pray and are thankful for the rain all the time. The reason it doesn't rain much in Thatcher or Safford if because the Pinaleno Mountain Range sucks up most of the Monsoon rains that come up from the south. Really, you people are so stupid. And no, I'm not LDS. "




Russ wrote on Jul 29, 2009 9:42 PM:

" Contractor- We must be very careful when we say that Jacobsen has no ties to the LDS Church. That simply is not true. Their upper tier management has held or is holding various positions within the Church. I would have been extremely surprised to see a Baptist owned or a Jewish owned construction company get the bid for this temple. It could happen but I would have been surprised. You are right, Jacobsen does seem to have a stellar reputation in and out of Utah. As a non-Mormon, my Mormon friends can't wait to give me a tour. "




HDE wrote on Jul 29, 2009 9:05 PM:

" To whomever said I was an out an out liar, what the heck is that? You make no sense and I have not lied about anything I have said. I have truthfully stated my opinion on everythign I have said and will ever say in my life. Its too bad for you I guess that God made me a truthful outspoken person. For some the truth hurts right?! "




Heres a thought. wrote on Jul 29, 2009 8:18 PM:

" Why is it that the members of the LDS never pray for rain?
I had an Apache Tribe member tell me that they believe the reason it never rains in the Gila Valley anymore is because there are too many Mormons.
If that's true, were in for an everlasting drought now. "




Contractor wrote on Jul 29, 2009 3:51 PM:

" Jacobsen Construction Company Inc. is an extremely reputable company that has no ties to the LDS Church. They build resorts, hotels, schools, industrial buildings, stuff tor the Olympics and many other things beside this one job building the temple. I don't believe for a second they would discriminate based on race, religion or anything else. That must mean that "hde" is either lying or her husband lied to her. He probably never even applied for the job. I feel sorry for those who think and act the way they do. Get some help people! "




TO to mike and hde wrote on Jul 29, 2009 3:43 PM:

" What an arrogant jerk you must be to call someone a liar and that their OPINION is wrong. Were you there when this man tried to get hired?? If you weren't actually present then you cannot say 100% that they did not ask about his religion, and a persons personal opinion is just that, you dont have to agree with it, but don't say that they are wrong. "




Amber wrote on Jul 29, 2009 3:01 PM:

" I am always so sad to see others judgments and hate toward the LDS church. In every religion their are individuals who make bad choices, we are all human, and we need to remember that a person isn't what makes the religion. I hope all of those who are not LDS take the opprotunity to walk through it before it gets dedicated. I am sorry to those of you who had bad experiences during this process and hope attending the open house can answer some of your unanswered questions. "




To Mike and HDE wrote on Jul 29, 2009 2:45 PM:

" You people are out of your minds. First I say HDE your an out an out liar. I can without a doudt tell you there is no way they came out and asked your husband if he was a mormon. And I know many hispanics working on the Temple that are not of the mormon faith and thats a pure FACT!! As to Mike everyone and I mean everyone will be allowed into the temple before it's dedication. After it is dedicated then only recommend holders will be allowed in. You have an opion but in this case it's WRONG!!! "




too hde wrote on Jul 29, 2009 2:27 PM:

" must be members. lol "




to hde wrote on Jul 29, 2009 2:27 PM:

" I I I, why now????? "




response wrote on Jul 29, 2009 2:22 PM:

" true mike!! do u give them 10% of u r income or going with a member. they are a joke!!! "




mike wrote on Jul 29, 2009 12:32 PM:

" Well seein as how the Mormons won't let people in their sacred temple without having some kind of membership paper, it only makes sense that they wouldn't want non Mormons building it, might contaminate the bricks and morter with their unclean hands. "




HDE wrote on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM:

" Those crews that are working on the temple that are of other races are probably in the LDS religion and thats why they are working there. Yes my husband went there and applied, he called and mailed an application to the main office before construction started. The only ones being biased and racist were the ones doing the hiring. For them to first of all ask if he was Mormon, instead of asking what qualifications/experience he has, was biased/racist. We have mormons friends that are great people and even they said that was wrong of the company to do that. "




Resident Native Born but not LDS wrote on Jul 28, 2009 2:00 PM:

" I've read the article and see that this building has provided some temporary jobs for the valley....what about bringing in some more permanent jobs for people here like trying to attract some manufacturing...I realize this will be a blessing for a lot of people who live here but if there are no jobs to be had then how long will it be before everyone goes elsewhere to look for work? Think about that when you close another store because no one shops because no one is here anymore... "




Not LDS wrote on Jul 28, 2009 11:56 AM:

" I look at the pictures and see what will be a beautiful building and then right next to it is railroad tracks, just imagine when you are witnessing a lovely temple ceremony and the toot toot of the train goes by, because the engineer is supposed to blow that whistle at the road crossing. What a foolish mistake to build the lovely temple by the tracks, not out on a mountain (hill) top. Just poor judgement by someone in authority. I hope the Mormons enjoy the building and non-mormons appreciate its beauty. "




To HDE wrote on Jul 28, 2009 11:22 AM:

" Maybe you should go take a look at the crews working on the temple. You bring up race and religion when you have no idea what you are talking about. I have many Hispanic and Non Mormon friends working on the Temple and Church building. Stop trying to stir up racial and religious conflict when in this case it does not exist.
Also to answer the question about to many mormons and to many temples. The answer is simply no to both. The more the better so we can serve Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. "




so many blessings wrote on Jul 28, 2009 10:47 AM:

" Wow! I just want to say the Lord is really blessing our lives with the revealing of his beautiful priesthood and now, how many amazing things we can do with it! God blesses each one of us by it, and then we can continue learning through it and spreading it's love and power through our towns and communities... it truly is a wonderful gift to the world. This temple is one of the many blessings he's giving his children. Live righteously! "




i am sorry wrote on Jul 28, 2009 9:56 AM:

" I am sorry that your husband did not get the job, but please dont base your opinion of mormons on that. The guy that did the interview is just one man, not the whole mormon church. Everyone makes there own decisions, religion or not. You can find people who make wrong decisions in all religions. So please dont judge a whole religion based on a few people you may have met. "




LDS Man wrote on Jul 28, 2009 9:29 AM:

" I was recently at the temple construction site and there are lots of people who are Hispanic and other races working on it. Half of the church's members are from other countries and it has had a long relationship with Mexico. The church's gospel is written in more than 160 languages and missionaries learn the native language of people they teach to. There is a sign at the site saying there is no on site hiring. Did your husband call the number listed for an appointment or did he just try to get hired at the site? "




hde wrote on Jul 27, 2009 11:19 PM:

" While back there was an article in the paper about this temple creating jobs in the valley for the time being, but what they failed to mention was if you are hispanic and NOT mormon, do not apply. My husband went to apply with the Jacobson construction company building this temple and the first thing they asked was "Are you LDS?" Not being mormon, my husband of course said no and they shooed him away saying they had all the help they needed. I thought mormons were caring, good people. WRONG!! "




too many mormons wrote on Jul 27, 2009 7:51 PM:

" Dont you think we have enough of these "temples" ! "




big chris wrote on Jul 27, 2009 4:42 PM:

" Me too babe!! "




Mike Donna Palmer wrote on Jul 27, 2009 3:41 PM:

" It will be great for this Temple to be completed, my Wife and I and some of my kids and Grandkids are planning to come down from Alberta, Canada to attend the Open House. It will be a great time. "




Whitney Lewis wrote on Jul 27, 2009 12:42 PM:

" Our family is so excited for this to happen. We wish everyone to enjoy the open house when it is ready. It will be such a special experience for all. "