Angel placed atop LDS temple

By Jon Johnson
Assistant Editor
Published on Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:11 AM MST

A monumental occasion took place Tuesday morning as the gold-leafed statue of the angel Moroni was set in place atop The Gila Valley Arizona Temple.

After seven months of construction, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' newest temple in Arizona has reached its final height and form, standing 11 stories from the base of the building to the tip of Moroni's trumpet. The precast stone walls have been installed with stained glass windows throughout and, from the outside, the only thing apparently left to construct is the landscaping and parking lot. The outside construction of a meeting house adjacent to the temple is apparently close to completion, if not complete as well.

The date of Sept. 22 was symbolically chosen to install the statue because the angel is said to have appeared to the church's founder, Joseph Smith Jr., on Sept. 21 and 22, 1823.

Workers prepare the statue of the angel Moroni to be placed atop the temple's spire. The placement of Moroni signifies a completion of the exterior of the building. Photo by Jon Johnson

The Moroni statue symbolically faces due east, possibly to either announce Jesus Christ's return as proclaimed in Matthew 24:27 or to point toward the Earth's first alleged temple in Eden. There is no official LDS Church standard for Moroni's easterly direction and four temples, the Seattle Washington Temple, Spokane Washington Temple, Nauvoo Illinois Temple and Taipei Taiwan Temple; all have Moroni statues that face west due to the lots and placement of their spires.

There are eight temples, including the Mesa Arizona Temple, that do not have a Moroni angel at all.

The Gila Valley Temple will be the LDS Church's third temple in Arizona. The church currently operates the Mesa Arizona Temple and the Snowflake Temple. Two other temples, the Phoenix Arizona Temple and the Gilbert Arizona Temple are slated for construction.

Construction workers first lifted the temple's spire and welded it into place at about 6 a.m. By 10 a.m., the angel Moroni was installed on his perch to the joy of an enthusiastic crowd that lined the sides of Highway 70. A wire connected to the lower base of the statue acts as an electrical ground to displace electrical energy to the earth as in a lightning rod.

Mark Bryce, Pima stake president and designated local church spokesperson for the temple, was on hand for the occasion and expressed his feelings about the statue's placement.

"It's the greatest event to happen in this Valley since the creation," he said. "And the dedication will supersede that."

Bryce's family has been associated with the church since the early pioneers in Utah, and his great-great-grandfather, Ebeneezer Bryce, was present when the capstone and Moroni statue was placed on the Salt Lake City Temple on April 6, 1892, after 39 years of construction. The temple was dedicated the following year on the same date.

Construction of the temple is handled by Jacobsen Construction Company Inc., which is based in Salt Lake City, and is expected to be completed by spring 2010. At that time, the company will hand over the temple to the LDS Church, which will complete the interior details and announce a period for an open house and dedication date.

During the open house, the temple will be open to anyone who wishes to walk through and view the interior. Guides will be available for tours and will explain what the various rooms are used for, including a baptismal font placed on the backs of 12 oxen. The guides will also be available to answer questions at the open house, which is expected to last two to four weeks.

"There will be ample opportunity for members and nonmembers of the church and those not of our faith to view it," Bryce said. "We'll show them the whole thing."

After the open house, the temple will be dedicated and only members who are approved by church leaders will be allowed to enter.

According to the LDS Church, temples are houses of the Lord for members and are "the most sacred places on earth. Temple services bind families together forever, teach the purpose of life and explain God's plan of salvation."

Anyone, regardless of religion or lack thereof, may enter an LDS meeting house (chapel,) but a templegoer must be an LDS Church member with a current Temple Recommend.

LDS members consider temples to be places of "peace separate from the preoccupations of the world" and that they "provide a place where church members make formal promises and commitments to God.

Bryce was recently appointed the local coordinator for the open house and dedication. He said he wasn't sure who would speak at the dedication, but church dignitaries from the highest level of the church will be in attendance.

Copyright © 2010 Eastern Arizona Courier

Comments

233 comment(s)

    go to work wrote on Oct 29, 2009 4:05 PM:

    " go look @ "TEAM HOYT" on the web "

    Post is closed-Managing Editor Aimee Staten wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:09 PM:

    " I would like to thank everyone who has posted their comments and beliefs on this post. After 231 comments, I believe that both sides have been well represented and any further posting would simply detract from the arguments. This will be the last post allowed here. "

    Construction Worker wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:02 PM:

    " I have been working on the Temple for 2 months now. I am not Mormon and the majority of men I work with are not Mormon and I can tell you that the working enviroment is great. We are treated equally and fairly. I have worked in alot of jobs all over the western states and I have enjoyed this job as much as anyone I've ever had. The Mormon people should be proud of this Temple but more importantly you should be commended on the way you treat others.
    I have gained a respect for the Mornon people. "

    Ben and Olivia wrote on Oct 7, 2009 8:47 PM:

    " Miffed, My wife and I are members of a diffrent faith. We have both found good jobs and find our places of work to be fair. Our bosses treat all their employees with respect. Oh both our bosses are Mormons. "

    To Miffed wrote on Oct 7, 2009 8:40 PM:

    " I am non Mormon and guess what I found a great job and my Boss is a Mormon. "

    LDS people wrote on Oct 7, 2009 8:30 PM:

    " For your information, I wasn't quoting from the Book of Mormon(D&C 10:32,37) for your benefit, it was meant for the LDS people. It was my hope that they(not you) would read it and realize it is a waste to try to change people's mind in this format. LDS people, just let it go, all we are doing is stirring the spirit of contention. "

    Leo wrote on Oct 7, 2009 6:40 PM:

    " To the person who wrote the comment that the book Mama, Mormanism and Me is a aheist faith, not true Thelma Geer was a morman at one time and explains of the religion and its rituals and sex rituals. She is now a born again Christian and she backs up her faith with bible scripturein this book. Her one and only savior is the Lord Jesus Christ! Yes Praise God!!!! "

    Who Said Paid Clergy wrote on Oct 7, 2009 6:03 PM:

    " The way the heirarchy in the church makes there money is by "scratching each others backs" and "crossing each others palms" which has been going on since the church (small c) was "restored to the earth". LDS for the most part deal with each other and not outsiders perse'. When they want to do something big, they rely on the members that can perform the "something big" before they go outside their membership. It's actually part and parcel of the membership "sticking together" as they generally also do in their voting. Once they get a hold on things, watchyerback. "

    Brad Peck wrote on Oct 7, 2009 4:59 PM:

    " Interesting how everyone posts under fake names. Its fine if you believe that way about the LDS faith, but why not post under your real name? Not enough courage? My names Brad, whats yours? "

    Reason wrote on Oct 7, 2009 4:56 PM:

    " There must really be something to the Mormon faith. So many comments by so many people. If a Catholic church were being constructed would there be as many comments? If negative comments were made about a Jewish temple we would consider them to be anti-semitic. If there was a Muslim or Buddist temple being built would there be tolerance by the intellectual masses of our Gila Valley, hmmm? Did you know that Mormons don't drink? Will there be such an outcry when the next religious "Budweiser" temple goes up around here? BTW I wonder what religion claims David Kincaid? "

    mormon chick wrote on Oct 7, 2009 3:23 PM:

    " hello I'm only 12 but I would like to agree and disagree with some of you. as you may know by I am LDS Iwould like to tell you that our church is not that bad- we are kind to others(most of us any way) and do not critisize others beliefs! So I ask you from the bottom of my heart to not say bad things about LDS familys! more than galf of thatcher safford and pima are LDS people and do you think we are a very horrable community?no we are a great town and I'm thankful for! "

    lola wrote on Oct 7, 2009 2:57 PM:

    " I'm Catholic and the angel is beautiful! Adults can decide for themselves what to believe...one of Americas' founding principles. Don't be threated/intimidated/frighted by the temple. If you are don't go there. "

    bwana wrote on Oct 7, 2009 2:36 PM:

    " Hey "The"...
    Dude, you are in serious need of some deprogramming.You seem to be obsessed with this religious stuff...It's no more real than dungeons and dragons. "

    Stan wrote on Oct 7, 2009 2:24 PM:

    " Why do you all care so much? Let everyone believe whatever they want to. You shouldn't even care.

    GET A LIFE!!!! "

    Miffed wrote on Oct 7, 2009 1:47 PM:

    " I am not against the Mormon church, what I am against is the favoritism shown to Mormons in this county. I have seen Mormons hired into local positions, including government, after being here only 3 days. If your not Mormon in this town...your out of luck. Its discrimination plain and simple. Ask any non Mormon trying to find work here and they will tell you its the same for them. The Mormons run this town. "

    the way I see it wrote on Oct 7, 2009 11:13 AM:

    " Since as a member of the LDS faith I am always on the defense as is the case in this forum. I do not agree with other religions but I would never tell the same people that are slandering us that you are wrong. Cool you don't agree keep it to yourself and know there is an open door should you ever need one. WHY DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO SLANDER A RELIGION? Does it make you feel good? Read the sermon on the moundt and tell me, are acting in gods name? I think_not. "

    Age of Mediocracy wrote on Oct 7, 2009 10:44 AM:

    " The Webster dictionary defines mediocre as: of middle quality; neither very good nor very bad; ordinary; average; commonplace, fail to express the full meaning of the term when applied to the political dimension of life.
    Perhaps this would explain the attack on the LDS Church. Whether you agree with them or not, they are anything but Mediocre!
    "Its easy to be Mediocre" Who's going to challenge you? "

    Say what wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:48 AM:

    " To whomever wrote"and jesus said he who hath no sin cast the first stone". How do you know that Jesus didn't say"Oh ya thats me"......and start chucking stones???? HAH now theres some runny for you in all this drabble...... "

    To the truth wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:43 AM:

    " Your right they do a lot of good things for the public. I will agree with you there but the mormon religion is a money making group. I only wish I could get away with writing a book to get followers to pay 10% and call it a tith. I would even like it more when I could get the followers to pay me for thier underwear which I tell them they must wear at all times and call it religion. People don't realize the mormon religion requires their members to purchase this underwear and only from them. "

    Still waiting wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:38 AM:

    " I'm still waiting for an answer from one of you to answer the question of multiple wives in the after life....... All you morman women are OK with this huh??? I actually heard one LDS woman say "when I get there why would I care if he has other wives". REALLY.....then why not now? I for one am really wondering why a man would or could handle more than one nagging woman. "

    To LDS people wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:31 AM:

    " PLEASE..... don't qoute us sqripture from the book of morman and pass it off as truth. The book of morman is a book written by man for his own purpose. Just like the other post said. "the devil can qoute scripture for his own purpose". Man can write anything down and say it is true. I really don't care about the temple building or what you people do in there. Just don't preach to me...... "

    The Truth wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:30 AM:

    " It's funny you say that "At its best" because the LDS Church doesn't pay its Bishops and temple workers and such like other churches do. There are very few paid positions in the church and those are usually the seminary teachers. The money faithfull members give for tithing and fast donations goes to building construction, literature, welfare assistance and to help communities in general. Sorry you had a bad experience but the LDS Church is a very positive organization that is good for everyone. Hate all you want, it just shows your mentality. "

    The Truth wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:25 AM:

    " "You best look elsewhere" is just plain wrong. The LDS Church was the first group in New Orleans to help victims of hurricane Katrina. Most of them were not LDS members. The Church donates food to starving nations all over the world. It is true there is a Church welfare system to help members who are facing tough times. It is meant only as a temporary thing as we are taught to be self-sufficient. Those who can help others. The LDS Church has done more for the Gila Valley than any other organization. "

    At Its Best wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:23 AM:

    " At the lower levels it's a pyramid scheme, and at it's highest levels it's a real "money maker" corporation, nothing more. It's a direct pattern for any "membership store, and a highly profitable one at that, providing it's higher on the ladder membership with lots of earthly benefits, but only promising spiritual rewards, not necessarily delivering on their promises. None of the lower membership understand that until they wake up and find that their promises are built on a poor false foundation and eventually wash away. All they do is make old men rich. "

    cs wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:21 AM:

    " I'm willing to bet that soon, some prophet in the church will get one of those revelations from God telling him it's ok now for gays to be in their church. They are everywhere and they just can't keep excommunicating them all, you lose alot of money that way. This tends to be the way of the LDS to just go with the flow, they wouldn't want to be labled homophobic afterall. "

    Shaesca wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:11 AM:

    " Cont'd to One Truth...However I do agree with you about the mormon (no cap letters intended) religion. It is as you say and much worse. It is also a well oiled political machine that runs on and, in favor of the mormon cult. I think you were kind in stating it is a "club." "

    Shaesca wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:06 AM:

    " To One Truth...Second grade mentality? Yet you admit to "stiring" (which is misspelled, correct spelling, stirring), the pot to make your point. Hmmmm, makes one wonder where people get these ideas that they are better than others, then prove themselves to be just as second grade, or lower than the rest. "

    You best look elsewhere wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:00 AM:

    " For: To Shaesca wrote on Sep 28, 2009 9:36 PM - The LDS move their "commodities" and "donations" through the courch distribution system, which means for the most part they deliver their disaster relief to MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH. Sure, some of the "aid" that they provide spills out of the pot, but the very vast majority of their aid goes to the membership. The figures you quoted are just "fluff" for their propaganda program that is provided to attract new and potential membership to their corporation. "

    hummmm wrote on Oct 7, 2009 8:57 AM:

    " Such hate over a building that will give the Gila Vally some more of a boost financially. Its a beautiful building no mater what religion you are or are not. Gila Vally = Small Minds. "

    the wrote on Oct 7, 2009 8:02 AM:

    " to bwana
    Once again you have proven my point Jesus did get mad and attack those who provided false and confusing doctrine i.e., the Saducees and Pharasiees were great at that as is any false doctrine that is created by man. And if you recall his anger in the temple with the money exchangers. Ther are more points to support his (Jesus) anger. Not at man kind perse but at the false and confusing doctrine whichwas being taught. LDS has done so by saing that the Book of Mormon is another testament to Jesus. Just plain wrong. "

    Answer to One truth wrote on Oct 7, 2009 7:30 AM:

    " Yes, the LDS families treat you like an outcast of you are not an active member in the church. I know that for a fact because myself and my family are not active, and get treated like we are the scum of the earth. We are not as " good:" as them. "

    well curious wrote on Oct 7, 2009 6:11 AM:

    " I believe that your ideas and views may have become twisted along for as long as I have heard the teachings of the church and have visted the temple myself I have never heard them spin it the way that you have. Please don't try and tell me how I believe without knowing what I believe in. If you really just want to know how we believe then please visit and become correct in your ideas about the mormon faith I'm afraid you com to conclusions that couldn't be more off base. "

    Fo_real wrote on Oct 7, 2009 3:57 AM:

    " But if it makes everyone feel better to rag on the LDS faith, keep it up. We'll pray for you.

    And you're always welcome to come to church and find out that we're not a bunch of closet-Satanists. We'll supply you with a free Book of Mormon and friendly company. Maybe you'll realize that we really are human beings, just like the rest of the world. "

    Fo_real wrote on Oct 7, 2009 3:50 AM:

    " You guys are hilarious.

    For everyone who believes that the LDS church is a cult and that we have magical ceremonies shrouded in mystery in our chapels and temples, I'm here to tell you--It's not that mysterious.

    Catholics sprinkle water on the head of infants. Druids worship trees and bushes. Scientologists think aliens are responsible for the creation of the universe. So what makes the Mormons so ridiculously awful? Wooo, Joseph Smith met an angel and found the Golden Plates! Not that far fetched compared to some religions.

    And p.s.--We don't worship Joseph Smith. "

    One Truth wrote on Oct 7, 2009 12:39 AM:

    " ...And the rest of the mormons I know believe that they will be a god one day of another planet, therefore they walk this earth like they are god. This is not biblical.
    Can someone please explain how dark people were not allowed in the LDS church and all of a sudden there was a vision. The mormon church changes with political pressure...and please don't tell me to go and worship your building and I will understand everything... "

    One Truth wrote on Oct 7, 2009 12:29 AM:

    " 90% of the comments on here are of elementry level. Like 2nd graders saying, "don't make fun of Johnny's sand castle". I am not above anyone else. I'm stiring the pot because there can only be "one truth" and mormonism is far from it. At best it is a conservative, well organized, family oriented, lucrative club with the name of Jesus on it. I have a handful of LDS friends that are genuine good people, but that will not get you to heaven. "

    religon wrote on Oct 7, 2009 12:19 AM:

    " I am pretty much ok with any religon except Mormons. I simply disagree on how they think about God and all thier beliefs about the Bible. "

    One Truth wrote on Oct 7, 2009 12:17 AM:

    " To: LDS man. Please elaborate on the practice of the lds church when a member rejects the church and it's teachinigs, and worse how the immediate family treats such a person. Thank you. "

    to to one truth wrote on Oct 7, 2009 12:12 AM:

    " Thanks for helping me with my argument and backing it up with scripture. What do you not understand about the word "revealeth". thanks.... "

    Curious wrote on Oct 6, 2009 6:45 PM:

    " Contiued...

    "He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken—HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do.”

    This is the section of the sermon that defines the Adam-God Doctrine. So you see, according to Mormon doctrine; God conceived Jesus physically with Mary. "

    Still questions wrote on Oct 6, 2009 6:45 PM:

    " The-Which Christian sect do you belong to? Is it better than the others> Which version of the bilbe to you read? Is it better than the others? Why can't you answer these questions? You are quick to jump on others for their beliefs, what are yours? "

    Curious wrote on Oct 6, 2009 6:41 PM:

    " Actually, the God-Adam concept was preached by Brigham Young April 9, 1852, in the Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City, Utah.

    Young, the prophet of Mormonism, said, “Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. "

    To be Continued... "

    Temple attendee wrote on Oct 6, 2009 5:42 PM:

    " What a beautiful picture! Nice story too. I appreciate our local paper covering the construction of the temple in such an open-minded and unbiased way. Congrats to the Courier! "

    bwana wrote on Oct 6, 2009 4:13 PM:

    " Gnostic in so much that I do believe there is a parallel universe we commonly call the spiritual world. As opposed to "agnostic" whose adherents are essentially pragmatists that do not believe there is a spiritual world.

    That other stuff you mentioned is just more artificial systems devised by mankind to explain the unexplainable. It's no more genuine than catholicism, mormonism, or protestantism.

    "The", I thought you really wanted to know. But then, since I was courteous enough to answer, you used it as a means to attack...Is that what Jesus would do? I don't think so. "

    To courious wrote on Oct 6, 2009 4:06 PM:

    " Ya I agree "not of the flesh" but not Adam... "

    the wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:56 PM:

    " to bwana to continue Their teachings are believed to have influenced Saint Augustine in the development of his theology of "total depravity" of mankind and concept of God. For nine years St. Augustine adhered to Manichaeism, a Persian philosophy proclaimed in southern Babylonia (Iraq) that taught a doctrine of "total depravity" and the claim that they were the "elect." He then turned to skepticism. Sounds like your the one who is wacked out "

    the wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:55 PM:

    " to bwana A gnostic? So enlighten us on this Gnostics proclaim God is both man and woman; Mary Magdalene is elevated to the status of the first and greatest Apostle, and is Jesus' wife and divine companion. Gnostics also believed that mankind was wholly evil and some sects even renounced marriage and procreation. They also believed in two gods, one evil god and one good god. tobe continued "

    Curious wrote on Oct 6, 2009 12:20 PM:

    " the first time I have heard Adam and Mary = Jesus?!

    As a matter of fact, speaking of Jesus; "...He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost....Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven."
    (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, pp. 50 and 51) - Brigham Young

    The Holy Bible states our Lord was conceived by a direct act of God the Holy Spirit and not 'begotten in the flesh." Read it in Matthew 1: 20. "

    to One Truth wrote on Oct 6, 2009 10:58 AM:

    " No secrets?

    Amos 3:7

    Surely the Lord god will do nothing, but he will revealeth his SECRETS unto his servants, the prophets.

    yeah. "

    To clear things up wrote on Oct 6, 2009 10:53 AM:

    " WE DO NOT WORSHIP JOSEPH SMITH! For crying out loud, are you people serious? Dont preach about WHAT YOU DONT KNOW! We worship Heavenly Father, and his Beloved Son, Jesus Christ. Anything you read in the book of mormon or hear in any of our church building will not contradict that. JESUS CHRIST IS THE LIGHT AND LIFE OF THE WORLD. "

    To all wrote on Oct 6, 2009 10:51 AM:

    " those of you that are saying that the LDS church is NOT CHIRSTIAN, you cannot say that. Why not? Because if you believe that they are not, you have not really investigated the church for yourself. Therefore, you cannot pass judgement against something that you DONT KNOW. WE BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE AND THE BOOK OF MORMON, WHICH BOTH TESTIFY OF JESUS CHRIST, SON OF THE LIVING GOD! Forget the Nicean Creed! Learn FOR YOURSELF!! "

    to all the haters wrote on Oct 6, 2009 10:47 AM:

    " HA! I'll bet anyone who thinks that the LDS church is a cult:
    A- doesnt even know what a cult is (any church can be defined as a cult)
    B-Is being fed lies about the LDs church, we do not teach anything other than what Jesus Christ and the prophets of old have taught. O ye hypocrites! You are all like the Pharisees, "a bible, a bible..." of course your pastor is going to tell you that mormons are "a devil-cult". Does a ford dealer say good things about a Chevy? "

    to curious wrote on Oct 6, 2009 5:35 AM:

    " Wow I should write a book on all the false things being said about the LDS faith. I am a member 30+ years and counting and for the the first time I have heard Adam and Mary = Jesus?! Please tell me more some of this stuff is great I have never heard it before. Maybe, I wonder, where have they been hiding this stuff for all this time. please continue! "

    OldSchool wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:45 AM:

    " Just an observation--

    I realize the LDS church is the topic at hand, but do you notice any LDS people bashing other religions or beliefs on here? Nope. The Mormon religion is a criticism magnet, but it turns the other cheek rather than slandering the faith of the rest of the world.

    If you're perfect, then by all means, point the finger of blame. I think some dude named Jesus once said "Let he who is without sin cast the 1st stone".

    Give the Mormons a break. "

    LDS people wrote on Oct 5, 2009 9:49 PM:

    " D&C 10:32,37
    32 And, behold, they will publish this, and Satan will harden the hearts of the people to stir them up to anger against you, that they will not believe my words.
    37 But as you cannot always judge the righteous, or as you cannot always tell the wicked from the righteous, therefore I say unto you, hold your peace until I shall see fit to make all things known unto the world concerning the matter. "

    LDS people wrote on Oct 5, 2009 9:42 PM:

    " 1 Corinthins 13:1 "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal" That is what all these comments sound like.
    Mathew 7:20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." By and large the LDS church/people produce good fruits; as do many people of other faiths.
    As stated before we are a peculiar people-but judge us by our fuits. I am sure you can find examples of some bad, but largely you will find good fruit. "

    Open invitation wrote on Oct 5, 2009 9:24 PM:

    " We are all brothers and sisters of our Heavenly Father, and have free agency. I belong to the LDS church because I believe it is true, and because it brings great happiness in my life. If you really would like to know more about what we believe as LDS, I extend an open invitation to come to any LDS church and learn for yourselves. If you are curious/interested and would like to know for yourself, not by silly rumors, don't take someone else's false info for truth, come learn for yourselves. "

    Wow wrote on Oct 5, 2009 9:00 PM:

    " Oh My Gosh! I'm so sick of all this crap! To the other religions who are mad about the temple: Who cares!?! I DON'T!!! The temple is such a sacred place to us that yes we do need to make rules and stuff like that. If you don't like it then get over it. the temple is the TRUE house of the Lord. So just shut it.. "

    bwana wrote on Oct 5, 2009 8:57 PM:

    " Bwana is a gnostic that peers into the mind of God.

    Church/religions are an artificial system of those who have created God in their own image, stolen the minds of good people, and turned countless others away from Godliness. They rule men's minds by fear of retribution and teach false hoods contrary to facts. False teachings, false prophets...The hoar of Babylon is you. (You are not the bride of Christ). "

    To Leo wrote on Oct 5, 2009 5:11 PM:

    " I couldn't agree with you more, I met Granny Geer many years ago and read her book and it was very enlightening. She used to go to the temple in Mesa and stand on the sidewalk and preach and it made the Mormons furious with her. She was raised in that religion so she knew what she was talking about but they didn't want anyone to know the real truth about what went on in their church. "

    Curious wrote on Oct 5, 2009 5:08 PM:

    " A born again Christian doesn't dislike simply because a person is Mormon but rather the issue is the false doctrine of the LDS religion. Really now; Jesus is the brother of Satan? Mary was impregnated with Jesus through a sexual encounter with Adam? Many LDS don't believe in these things privately but fear being ostracized by family and friends. It's just not a religion; to seek God elsewhere would seem like a betrayal of their families and heritage. That's why they continue to play the game. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life; not Joseph Smith. "

    Against hate wrote on Oct 5, 2009 5:02 PM:

    " I'm in too! I love this valley! I want it to be a place that welcomes kindness, I will not contribute to the unkind words said about any religion! That's the beauty in what our nation was founded upon... freedom.... of religion...or whatever you want to believe in. It was also founded upon "In God we trust". That is what has made our nation blessed and strong, and so wonderful to be an American! Don't contribute to hate or we will regret it. "

    Im In wrote on Oct 5, 2009 4:47 PM:

    " I agree with "let's unite..." LDS or not, I will do my part, you're right this is wrong, and I am one that has wrote a negative comment, I'm sorry. Like I said I'm in! I will try to not be so shallow and judge a religion, person or belief, but respect and love my neighbor. To all- please forgive me! "

    Lets unite as a a valley wrote on Oct 5, 2009 4:40 PM:

    " I am sorry for the unkind words and comments spoken hear, I will try harder to be kinder, what about you? Who's in...can we set a good example for our children? We (myself) included can be a little better. The world has enough scary hatred in it, lets not contribute to it. LETS TAKE A STAND TO UNITE AS A VALLEY NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION WE ARE AND PROMOTE "LOVE THY NEIGHBOR"...WHO'S IN?????????????? "

    to the courier wrote on Oct 5, 2009 4:31 PM:

    " Why isn't there a moderator in every online discussion forum. If the posts don't directly apply to the topic at hand posts should not be allowed or is this not really a forum? Just wondering, thanks! "

    to leo wrote on Oct 5, 2009 4:29 PM:

    " By reading a book by a person who along the way felt they were wronged somehow, what will that gain us. So as a fellow christian you are then implying I should read a book about the atheist faith. The LDS faith does not counter your beliefs in such a way by trying to offend so why do you do it. Did you meet your quota for the week is that what your faith teaches you? "

    About LEO wrote on Oct 5, 2009 4:22 PM:

    " Peter Pan is a good book, and if you'd like to believe it, go ahead... mama always said, "don't always believe what ya read!" "

    LEO wrote on Oct 5, 2009 3:51 PM:

    " People here in our valley need to read the book called " Mama, Mormanism and Me" from Thelma Geer (an ex-morman). A must reading book on all the rituals that were taking place in the LDS temple. "

    To wrote wrote on Oct 5, 2009 3:13 PM:

    " That's completely false!!!! ..Seriously? I know for a fact that Thatcher schools do not require that info. upon enrollment! That's plain silly! Let's not make such ridiculous accusations! "

    Happy are we wrote on Oct 5, 2009 3:09 PM:

    " What do you tell your children when they argue, I for one try to teach my children , "I don't care who started it, I don't care who thinks they are right or wrong, please quit arguing, and be a peacemaker." I guess as adults, we need to take our own advice and not be hypocrites, but be peacemakers, love one another as Jesus loves you. Love unites us all. I have been treated unkind by non-LDS members, and LDS members alike. But on the other hand I have been treated kind by both also. "

    Oh Lord wrote on Oct 5, 2009 3:05 PM:

    " Jesus Christ was Jewish, not a member of the LDS church. "

    . wrote on Oct 5, 2009 2:19 PM:

    " Thatcher Schools want to know what Ward the child belongs to when enrolling in school. That is wrong...children of non LDS faith are discriminated against. "

    To one truth wrote on Oct 5, 2009 2:09 PM:

    " Your statement does not have any relavence to this article you have just proved my point exactly. Why do you say what you say when this article was about a construction status, I Just don't get it!!! "

    SO WHAT wrote on Oct 5, 2009 12:24 PM:

    " SO WHAT, SO WHAT, SO WHAT, WE LIVE IN EVIL TIMES ACCEPT IT, NO CHURCH OF ANY KIND IS GOING TO CHANGE IT. YOUR NO RIGHT THAN THE NEXT FELLOW, INFACT YOUR JUST FOLLOWING WHAT THE PERSON BEFORE YOU SAID. "

    LDS Man wrote on Oct 5, 2009 12:02 PM:

    " "One Truth" has no truth to what he is saying. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is, of course, a Christian Church. What goes on in its temples are sacred, not secret. Anyone will be able to tour the facility before it is dedicated for its sacred use. Anyone can go to any of the LDS' churches. The LDS Church welcomes all who wish to attend. LDS doctrine preaches love for Jesus one's family and neighbors. Who would find anything wrong with that. Anyone who puts down the LDS Church is putting down the teachings of Jesus Christ. "

    Shaesca wrote on Oct 5, 2009 11:24 AM:

    " To Anti-LDS...You are so right about how non-Mormons are treated in the Gila Valley. I also lived there for 11 years. It was terrible the way my child was treated in school. We have since moved away and can't believe how different things are in this town compared to where we lived. People are nice, friendly, caring and don't look down their nose at us. We are well educated people with good incomes, but we weren't good enough because we wouldn't join the church and bow to the bishop. I wish you luck. "

    RB Markham wrote on Oct 5, 2009 11:16 AM:

    " Thanks for your excellent article and photo!!! "

    David Melkerson wrote on Oct 5, 2009 10:56 AM:

    " So many people have misconceptions about religious texts, especially the bible. There are no absolute truths in any version of this document. Throughout the ages it has fallen victim to multiple versions and changes. First of all the stories are all based on hearsay. The scribes and writers wrote accounts of other people, no writer was an actual witness to these events. Mistranslations and bias' of the writers have also played a major role. The messages have changed, as well as the accounts of what happened. Ask any true biblical historian. "

    One Truth wrote on Oct 5, 2009 9:57 AM:

    " To "to-to wow cont"
    etiquette will not get you to heaven. We are talking about eternity here and many many lost souls. All of you folks that keep making comments that basically say live and let live don't understand that there is a heaven and a he** and we are going to one of those two places. It's not about the building. Mormonism is a cult, non-christian. Many people know it and that is why there is so much controversy whenever there is an article about LDS. "

    one truth wrote on Oct 5, 2009 9:45 AM:

    " God has no secrets, yet the temple and what goes on inside is very hush, hush.
    Any religion where the family/community disown you if you leave the church is not of Christ. These characteristics in any belief system are of a cult. Churches attach the name of Jesus to their titles but that does not mean that is who they worship. Luke 21:8 and he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. "

    the wrote on Oct 5, 2009 7:23 AM:

    " to bwana
    So where do you hang your hat at the end of the day? What beliefs do you have? Athiest? Agnostic? Scientologist? Please share I would like to know "

    to-to wow cont wrote on Oct 4, 2009 8:20 PM:

    " Lets leave out doctrine, no scripture battle about who's right and who's wrong how about lets talk etiquette please. Pertaining to this newspaper article was a status update on the temple. Now if you want to discuss comments made by a person or whether it should or should not be in the front page is cool. But again why do people feel the need to think wow another article where I can say how I feel about this religion even though it does not pertain to anything about the posting. Its really sad that people cravethat. "

    To-To Wow wrote on Oct 4, 2009 8:14 PM:

    " I posed the question not because I am looking to bash anyone however just trying to make a counter argument in this forum. Lets say the Church of ? (not LDS) was building a nice beautiful building and it was getting updates in the courier just the same. Can I expect to see the same hatred comments that I see in this forum or does this only happen when it applies to LDS functions. If so why? All I have seen is LDS people on this website play defense as is the case 99.9% of the time. "

    Catholic wrote on Oct 4, 2009 7:26 PM:

    " Churches are suppose to be a place of worship. Anyone should be let in. Jesus loves everyone not just LDS members. Yet your new Temple very one sided. "

    To Say What wrote on Oct 4, 2009 7:06 PM:

    " I guess we had all better boycott WalMart, Home Depot or any other large scale construction in this valley as they all used outside contractors. I know for a fact that many of the sub contractors are from this valley.
    To Anti LDS sorry to inform you that Sierra Vista has a large population of Latter Day Saints. Just can't shake us can you. LDS church is one of the fastest growing churches in the world.
    "Say what" the bible says alot of things like don't judge. Who are you to say the LDS people don't need a temple. "

    TO WOW wrote on Oct 4, 2009 3:53 PM:

    " On your Spin of church A-B-C We all believe in 1 GOD, 1 Bible and 1 Heaven! The mormons do not! They have the weirdest spin of all. Do you think anyone in this Valley is that worthy to go into the Temple? I think not! Do what you want all week and wash your sins away on sunday....Its very sad..... "

    say what wrote on Oct 4, 2009 12:34 PM:

    " The Holy Bible says "wherever two or more are gathered in my name, I will be there". There is no need for such a place as a Holy Temple. And wouldn't you know it? They give the building contract to a Salt Lake City Construction Company, with Saffords ( and Arizona"s) hurting economy. That's Christ like for sure. "

    Religious hatred CONT wrote on Oct 4, 2009 12:17 PM:

    " Bible, Book of Mormon, Koran, and need I go on……? They all have followers whom believe they are the only RIGHT religion. “Those who fail to know history are doomed to repeat it”. “The devil can quote scripture for his own purpose.” Just a few quotes from man kind that speak volumes. The hatred spewed out here from Mormons, Catholics and other faiths are just a prime example of the hatred of men no matter what religion. "

    Religious hatred wrote on Oct 4, 2009 12:16 PM:

    " I believe just looking at what has been blogged here is proof positive that religion of any kind has spread hatred throughout the world. Study your history and start adding up the numbers. Millions and millions of people have been killed because of religion. Why would a God allow his children to destroy each other in his name? Don’t give me the psycho babble that it is free agency. Would you allow your children to murder each other in your name and sit idly by and watch it happen? "

    Happy are we wrote on Oct 4, 2009 12:15 PM:

    " I believe those of you that "hate" LDS people must either have had a bad experience with someone or have been offended some way. That is sad. Although, I really don't believe you hate our religion, because why would you? Why would you care or not want to give someone the right to worship how, where, or what they may? We respect that you have this same right and privilege. People are not perfect and not always true to who they should be, but the truths and doctrine we are taught, we believe is true. "

    Happy are we wrote on Oct 4, 2009 12:00 PM:

    " As an LDS member I agree with these words..."Oh, holy words of truth and love we hear from day to day, revealed to saints from God above, to guide in heaven's way. They're from Apostles good and true, whose names we all revere, who daily teach us what to do in words of love and cheer. They're from the prophets God inspires, in counsels oft withstood, reproving all our ill desires, commending all that's good. Beautiful words of love, coming from God above, how sweet, how dear the words we hear! They're beautiful words of love." "

    To Bwana wrote on Oct 4, 2009 7:23 AM:

    " Bwana, every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is the Christ, even you old pal. I'd be very careful about passing judgment on what is true and what isn't, believing that I was some sort of all-knowing oracle. You aren't. Better to eat a small bowl of crow now than a dozen of them later. It is an insult for you to publicly state that my religion is false. Do you really believe those type of statements change the truthfulness of the restored Gospel? Truth will endure into eternity. "

    Anti-LDS wrote on Oct 4, 2009 2:49 AM:

    " lived here for 10 years. everything is about the Mormons there alot of churches here. It's very cult like living it just depends on who you know. it's awful to be treated unfairly concerning work here. I can hardly wait till I move to Sierra Vista, Arizona where I can feel like I am given a fair chance at everything instead of being unemloyed because I am not a "member of the LDS community. "

    Darwin J Weech wrote on Oct 3, 2009 11:24 AM:

    " I will use my own name. So many angry-sounding comments. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I will admit that we are a peculiar people. It seems that misunderstanding feeds the rage of our enemies. I guess there will always be those who sterotype us in a negative way. I have many dear friends who are not members of this Church. Christlike love generates mutual respect, not hatred. For any who really want to know about us, I invite you to join us for a session of General Conference at lds.org. Thank you. "

    question remains- wrote on Oct 3, 2009 9:42 AM:

    " To the-you still didn't answer the question, which version of the bible is true and correct and "backed by evidence". If you pick one version does that mean the others are wrong? Also, if you ask me to your church because you believe it is best are you saying the others are wrong? Why would one "Christian" church be better than the others? "

    Really wrote on Oct 3, 2009 6:42 AM:

    " To the-I know about the tablets and what they stand for but you proclaim "physical evidence" to back everything. I say where is it. You accept or not on faith. Let others do the same. A good point was raised by another poster "Which "Christian" church should I join? Which is right? It seems they all have differences. Could these differences be because of men? "

    Robert Layton wrote on Oct 2, 2009 10:43 PM:

    " I volunteered the other day to work at the LDS church cannery. I helped make applesauce. My job was to empty the separator wheelbarrow, load 60 pounds of sugar into each 600 gallon batch and measure the "slump" of each batch for quality control. There were 30 or so other volunteers from my ward, men and women. There were white, black and brown skins; different colored and textured hair but everyone wore the same color lab coats, aprons and hair nets. Each performed different duties and served their fellow man and God. "

    Also waiting wrote on Oct 2, 2009 10:02 PM:

    " I'd like to see an answer to "still waitings" question. Anyone have one? I am Mormon but have attended other churches because I have an open mind. That is until I hear a derogatory comment about the LDS church. No religion should bash another. Ill see everyone at the open house cuz you all know you'll be there, even those that are hating. "

    ruby-doo wrote on Oct 2, 2009 5:53 PM:

    " i just have to put my opion out there. im catholic and i dont have anything against mormons but whats the purpose of having so many churchs out here in the valley and half the time there not even full. its like their trying to show off how much money they have or something. "

    IF continued wrote on Oct 2, 2009 5:34 PM:

    " Check out the golden plates of Bulgaria. They are 2 and half millennia old and were found just 60 years ago. They are written in ancient Etruscan, a language long lost, maybe some day they will be able to tell us that we are all wrong or add to the history of the middle east.
    There are about 30 such pages written on gold sheet through out the world todate, but untranslated at this time.
    People don't hate and argue over things that have yet to be revealed to us. God bless. "

    bwana wrote on Oct 2, 2009 5:32 PM:

    " If your religion was true, I would believe it. But it isn't. It's false. You have turned christianity into a false religion by spreading untruths.

    I'm not just picking on the mormons. I pick on all y'all.
    But to be fair, I was pretty well keeping out of this thread until a couple of morons took shots at me, so here I am telling it like it is....If you can't handle the truth, then don't bother me. "

    IF wrote on Oct 2, 2009 5:28 PM:

    " IF the Bible is so correct then why was the Book of Mary (Mary Magdalene), the Book of Thomas , the Book of Judas, do you like the letters of Paul, what about the letters of Paul to the Seneca or Theela, or what about the book of Nicodemus just to mention a few. They were not people of favor a few centuries after the death of Jesus Christ, so they were left out. What else could have been left out? Just maybe the Book of Mormon. continued "

    to to the poster wrote on Oct 2, 2009 1:45 PM:

    " colored people? and is this a small town occurance or was there an official posting from the church that said we should "love to hate colored poeple?" I really just have to sit back and laugh a bit on how some people look at the world. Let me tell you something dude take off your blinders and look at the other 13 plus million members and and form an opinion that way instead of the one poor sap your basing your views off of. This is getting better and better the longer this post is open. "

    still waiting wrote on Oct 2, 2009 1:41 PM:

    " Still waiting for my question to be answered... I'll throw it out there again Christian church A, B or C doesn't matter as long as we gather on Sunday and talk about bringing down that gosh darn morman religion cuz heaven forbid that this people live in the USA and have the freedom to worship how the please. I promise that I could attend every other non LDS church in the Gila Valley and while Christ is your focus you spin everything your own way. So which one do I choose? Which one is right? "

    Pima90 wrote on Oct 2, 2009 1:28 PM:

    " Mark Bryce - Easy on the 'best thing to happen' commnets. That was a little over the top. That may be true for you but not necessarly everyone else. I'm a very active member and I'm not sure I agree with you to that extent. "

    To the poster wrote on Oct 2, 2009 12:26 PM:

    " Who said LDS people have been here longer, guess who's been here longer then you? Yep, them colored people you love to hate so much. "

    the wrote on Oct 2, 2009 11:34 AM:

    " to bwana

    The truth hurts doesnt it. Wacked out get real


    To question the tablets were written based upon old testament law to support the Hebrew nation as part of their initial plan for salvation.Old Testament Law They are not needed now that Jesus came and died for our sins New Testamnet Law. The words written on those tablet still are relevant though "

    To Bwana wrote on Oct 2, 2009 8:07 AM:

    " Why dont you go post comments on something that you like such as abortion, hussein obama, gay pride or something of that nature and leave the LDS folks alone. They were here long before you were. "

    ex wrote on Oct 2, 2009 5:54 AM:

    " Just do a search on "Endowment Ceremony"........WOW. "

    won cont wrote on Oct 2, 2009 3:00 AM:

    " Thats when I found that your common bond to unite against the mormons goes away. So I make my trip to Christian church A, B, C... all professing to teach the word of god but yet A B C all have a different spin on the bible. And say I choose Christian church E you might have a touring preacher come in and although may be close to what is preached he will spin it his own way. So in the end you unite against a people in hate but can't agree on scripture yourself. FUNNY! "

    wow cont wrote on Oct 2, 2009 2:53 AM:

    " People who oppose a religion let me pose this question if I may. I am a open person seeking a religion. I search and search and at the end of my journey I need to make a decision. I would find that many different options but one that would question the true motives of a religion. See I found that while non mormons could all agree that they oppose the mormon faith and ban together on that common idea. When I asked so not the mormons then who? "

    saffordnative wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:39 PM:

    " Golden angel= golden calf. Remember the bibical story of Moses bring down the 10 commandments and found the people worshipping the golden calf? "

    Answers wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:17 PM:

    " To Born in Safford,

    That is a great question regarding the location of the temple being built next to the tracks. Simply stated, so people from outlining cities would be able to arrive at the temple by rail. Most people don't know, but in a few years there will be a commuter train that runs from Benson to Miami. Central is almost exactly in the middle. "

    To to temple recommend wrote on Oct 1, 2009 6:33 PM:

    " Your not getting my point, you are AGAINST putting caffene, tobacco or alcohol in your bodies, yet you own stores that sell the stuff to others. Don't you see the hypocrisy in that? It's like the drug dealer who may not do the drugs himself, but feels no remorse for suppllying it to others. Wrong is wrong, so don't tell me the church isn't happy with all the money made by selling this so called BAD stuff. And I'll bet the Mormon church has alot of dealings with illicit companies that they don't share with all its followers. "

    Thats Not Trumpet wrote on Oct 1, 2009 6:19 PM:

    " He holding up an old Italian Wine Flask. Just who was the sculptor anyway, Missy Meanie? "

    another question wrote on Oct 1, 2009 6:01 PM:

    " to The--I would ask, wich version or translation of the bible are you speaking of? I always liked the King James version because if it is good enough for a king it must be good enough for me. Is the King James version the true "backed by evidence" version or is it one of the many other versions and while we are at it which language is the most correct. I would think the Hebrew version would be. What do you think? Also, can yo tell me where the tablets are i would like to see them? "

    Born in Safford wrote on Oct 1, 2009 4:20 PM:

    " The Mormons are building a beautiful building which will be one of the more handsome buildings in the valley. My only regret is where it is located. Why oh why build a multi-million dollar building beside the railroad tracks! I understand there were free offers of land in much more desireable locations but they chose that odd spot. Very strange. "

    bwana wrote on Oct 1, 2009 4:13 PM:

    " Hey "The"....You sound pretty whacked out yourself! Maybe it's time for you to get some professional mental health care to help you get the religious garbage out of your mind. "

    To Temple Recommend wrote on Oct 1, 2009 3:10 PM:

    " Here you go judging again. Who are we as mormons to judge what a person takes into their body. We all have free agency to do what we want and then suffer the concequences. Why can the church not hold stock in a soda company. We do not preach againist sodas. Once again it comes back to free agency. Sorry the LDS church owns no stock in the beer copanies. Your spreading another falsehood. "

    the wrote on Oct 1, 2009 2:34 PM:

    " to question
    The probelm I have with the Book of Mormon is that it is filled with holes that cannot be proven with any physical evidence. That the church has practices that run in oppostion to the Bible and when I ask Mormon missionaries this question If you had to choose only one book to live and follow to get you to heaven they choose the the Book of Mormon to base their eternal salvation on "

    the wrote on Oct 1, 2009 2:21 PM:

    " To The Question The Bible and its books are factually based over thousands of years with evidences. The book of mormon is how old with no evidence to support it. "

    another question wrote on Oct 1, 2009 2:02 PM:

    " No not by physical proof but instead by stories passed down through the generations. I haven'st seen an exhibit displayng the actual stone tablets with the 10 commandments and I haven't seen Noah's Arc. Where exactly is the garden of eden? Why do we accept a "New Testament" in which most of the books were written by a man who had a vision rather than a man that walked and talked with Christ? Maybe Joseph Smith also had a vision. "

    the wrote on Oct 1, 2009 1:53 PM:

    " To The Question There are numerous studies and ample evidences not in only in the US but around the world that prove the Bible, that the historical events and facts associated with it has actually occured. The Book of Mormon cannot be substantially supported with any physical evidence and thus is a doctrine predicated on what man believes and was written as such. The Bible and those who believe and follow it, based on faith, also have evidence to back it up. "

    The question wrote on Oct 1, 2009 1:07 PM:

    " To the-you are assuming and accepting that the bible (old and new testament) are true and acruate and no mere mortal has put their two cents worth in during the centuries and the many translations. You accept by faith. I would suggest that those that accept the Book of Morman accept also on faith, (Just so you know those people also accept the Old and New Testaments) You can oly prove these issues to people that want to accept it--any of it. "

    Curious wrote on Oct 1, 2009 12:25 PM:

    " Let me get this straight; The Mormon religion however well intentioned people are, base their faith and lives upon the appearance of an angel to Joseph Smith bearing a different gospel?

    Galations 1:8 and 9, “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”

    Make no mistake, the LDS religion preaches a 'different' gospel. "

    the wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:45 AM:

    " Has anyone ever noticed that in the Bible when Jesus speaks about angels he never mentions them by name? How could a man who is no where near Jesus therefore be on the first name basis with an angel? If it were that important why wouldn't Jesus have visited Joseph and not Moroni? By the way where can i find Moroni mentioned in the Bible? I mean if he is that significant wouldn't the Bible mention him as well? I can't find him. "

    the wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:12 AM:

    " What are the ridiculous odds or logic of a man that would come and fulfill these Old Testament prophecies to such a degree that it would rend the matter of disbelief a matter of willful blindness, having, that is, to our disposal a Book that exposes such miraculous proof. "

    the wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:11 AM:

    " The Bible was not meant to be merely some helpful cliches, or simply a daily devotional.
    While so many seek after miracles today, the greatest miracle is overlooked and that is the Bible itself, which, with only a little effort, can prove Jesus was, and is, the Christ, spoken of by the prophets of old. "

    the wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:08 AM:

    " Note that this verse in Isaiah is a prophecy of the coming Messiah. Now open your Bible to First Peter 2:24 and read: "Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." Prophecy fulfilled in New Testament these are only a few verses, whereas there are so many more in the Old Testament that can be shown to be clearly fulfilled in the New Testament. "

    the wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:07 AM:

    " The Old Testament when separated from the New Testament is the Jewish Bible, called the Torah. It is the Christians that put the Torah/Old Testament and the New Testament together into one book that is called the Bible. It is inescapable that the Torah/Old Testament was written long before Jesus was even born. Open the Bible to Isaiah 53:5 and read: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed." "

    bwana wrote on Oct 1, 2009 9:36 AM:

    " Hey Ha Ha....
    You are welcome to honor your heavenly host however you please. The angel is a nice looking work of art....But nothing you say or do will ever validate the mythology of the mormon religion.

    You say it's "the work of your master"? That's quite a stretch of the imagination. I guess anything your church authorities dream up becomes a divine revelation/mission from God....That's a religious delusion. People sometimes go for psychiatric help to overcome those feelings, but since those authorities have thousands of followers (enablers essentially), there is little hope for their mental health recovery. "

    gila valley wrote on Oct 1, 2009 9:06 AM:

    " The people in this valley need to support and respect one another. So, there is a beautiful building being built in Central. Cant' we just let the LDS people enjoy thier temple and worry about oursleves. "

    To to temple recommend wrote on Oct 1, 2009 6:44 AM:

    " You said the church has other sources of income to support itself, would those sources be stock in beer and soda companies? Your church owns the very thing they preach about NOT consuming, the hypocrisy is amazing so don't tell me its not about the money.
    It angers me to no end when I see a Mormon who owns a store that sells booze and tobacco, how do they justify selling the very thing they're against? Oh yeah, they're doing it for God, he needs that money so I guess its ok. "

    To Christians who despise MormonsMormonism wrote on Oct 1, 2009 12:42 AM:

    " Fine...Moroni, the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith, the Golden Plates...all false. Can't prove these are things and people of truth and God.

    Will someone prove how Jesus is going to save people from their sins? Don't say that the Bible says so.

    And say Joseph Smith did see Jesus and His Father in the grove of trees. Does that prove through Jesus dying on the cross and resurrecting Himself will make it possible for everyone to go to heaven?

    So Christian Anti-Mormons...prove Jesus. Mormons are an easy target. Prove Jesus. Try it. "

    Hymn 233 wrote on Sep 30, 2009 9:35 PM:

    " Let Us All Press On

    He that hath ears to hear, Let him hear. "

    Thinking wrote on Sep 30, 2009 9:15 PM:

    " Book of Morman was written by a man- wasn't the bible also written by men and wasn't there a meeting centuries ago when other men decided which writings would be included and which writings would not be included? Both books are accepted or rejected based on faith. Let people believe how they will and stop the hate speech. Be happy that people are searching for God. "

    maybe why wrote on Sep 30, 2009 8:56 PM:

    " hopefully why you will see truth and light in the darkness. remember God loves you too "

    Gimmeawellsaid wrote on Sep 30, 2009 8:55 PM:

    " “And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold. John 10:16 Te book of mormon is The record of the people here in america before during and after the life of Christ. You should not add or take away from the bible itself because that will bring you trouble. Were these ancient civilizations not aloud to keep records? Were they not aloud to believe in Christ? The fact that these two records were separated by a large ocean proves "

    Cheryl wrote on Sep 30, 2009 7:21 PM:

    " Don't let worry kill you, let the church help. "

    hey ho hum wrote on Sep 30, 2009 6:58 PM:

    " hate to brake it to you partner, the bible is made up of many books, "THE BOOKS OF THE BIBLE". Do not add to THAT book,the book of revelation. If we took that comment to heart it is also mentioned earlier in the bible, Duet 12:32, which would make everything john wrote false. When John was writing that book he was not yet aware nor does it state anywhere that he would be compiling a "Bible". Just thought I would help you out a bit. "

    Haha wrote on Sep 30, 2009 6:40 PM:

    " put. The reason I say this is because look at how many of you are commenting on this. More comments on a story equals a good thing for the Courier. The amount of people who visit there sight helps determine how much advertisors are willing to pay to put adverisements on this sight. And everyone commenting on this is helping that number go up. Thanks :) What I'm trying to say is this, nobody cares what you think, it's the fact that you're paying attention to it. So keep those comments coming! :) "

    Haha wrote on Sep 30, 2009 6:37 PM:

    " ... that something will get done about it. Allow me to let you in on a little secret. The Courier DOES NOT CARE what you think! Neither does ANYONE else! The Courier is produced to inform residents of the Gila Valley and surrounding areas about the news that they're interested in. That's how they make money. If they included articles that nobody cared about on the front page, that would be a little sensless seeing as that's how they make their money. Now, obviously, (to everyone with a little common sense) this article belongs EXACTLY where it was "

    Haha wrote on Sep 30, 2009 6:33 PM:

    " All of you who have posted or are going to post comments about how you think it is "dumb" and "stupid" for this to have made the front page make me laugh. You're posting these comments for one of two reasons. The first possibility is that you're just upset inside because you have NO CLUE about the LDS religion, and aren't intelligent enough to find a way to express yourself other than by complaining. If that's the case, man do I envy your life. The second, and more probable option, is that you are doing it with the hope "

    Haha wrote on Sep 30, 2009 6:26 PM:

    " Bwana, I find your comment about how the crane hoisting the Angel Moroni reminds you of how man made religion quite amusing. Tell me, when you see pictures of horses pulling carraiges in the earliest years of travel, does it remind you of how horses invented transportation? It's called doing the work for your master. It's not that complicated. "

    got 2 luv the humor wrote on Sep 30, 2009 5:38 PM:

    " Hey maybe they should bronze david kincaid and place him with a bottle in his mouth on top of safford city hall??? After all, isn't city hall the temple of lousy government? "

    Why wrote on Sep 30, 2009 3:38 PM:

    " "Thou protest too much"

    If your religion is the right religion, why do you go to such great lengths to refute the negative comments?

    Be content in your knowledge that you are one of the chosen ones and remain resolute. Just sit back in your new temple knowing that you will gain salvation.

    Then again, what if you are wrong? "

    Justice wrote on Sep 30, 2009 3:29 PM:

    " I'm pretty sure the best thing that could happen to the Valley is the second comming of Christ.
    Then there will be no question who was right and who was wrong!
    Let God sort out the rabble! "

    Never to return.... wrote on Sep 30, 2009 2:36 PM:

    " I moved away from the Gila Valley some time ago because of the angry hatred displayed in the local government, the schools and life in general. After reading this article and the blogs I can see it has only worsened. So glad I no longer have to be bombarded by the negativity of that hateful place any longer. "

    Frankie wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:51 PM:

    " I’m of no religion don’t even go to a church or congregation but I’m going to say just this; Why do you have to drop to the level of the stupid ones who have nothing good to say about anything? Just put up your angel if you think that’s what you need and let everyone else who wants to post crap, post! That’s it, Thanks! "

    Hey All wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:49 PM:

    " Charles Darwin spoke the truth "

    John Lennin was right wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:40 PM:

    " Thank you to everyone who posted their Hate filled Dogma on this website. I was honestly laughing out loud while reading them. Apparently everyone knows what the TRUTH is...and everyone else is just to dumb or gullible to see it. I didn't realize the Gila valley was so full of "Deep Thinkers". "

    the wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:22 PM:

    " Grew up catholic it has issues ie idol worship praying to statues confessing sins to a priest etc non of which is supported in the Bible on what one must do to gain eternal salvation. There are no golden plates and Jesus never came to the Americas. People read the Bible trust the words that were devinely written and spiritully given. "

    bwana wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:02 PM:

    " He that hath joints to roll, let him roll.
    Bwana 9:30 "

    to Temple Recommend wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:00 PM:

    " Actually, if you were too poor to pay your bills, the church would financially assist you and help you get on your feet. They don't cast you aside based on your income. "

    To Ho Humm wrote on Sep 30, 2009 12:54 PM:

    " It also says in Deutoronomy to add no more scripture as it does in Revelations. So with your reasoning everything past that isn't valid huh?
    ho humm "

    1 Nephi 833 wrote on Sep 30, 2009 10:19 AM:

    " He that hath ears to hear let him hear.... "

    amazed wrote on Sep 30, 2009 8:31 AM:

    " Gee, I can see from reading all the comments that the christian value of "love thy neighbor", charity, and good works needs to be revitalized in our valley. What an example for our posterity. If you have no love for the Mormon church, DON'T JOIN. If your curious, INVESTIGATE for yourself, make up your own mind. Vicious gossip is poison to an intelligent mind. God did not create dummies, he gave us a brain to reason with and a way to communicate with him, You know? PRAYER. No buttons to push and it works! "

    TO TEMPLE RECOMMEND wrote on Sep 30, 2009 8:26 AM:

    " About tithing. I find that I can't afford to NOT pay my tithing to be honest with you. I myself have a hard time making ends meet, but when I pay my tithing in faith (knowing that I'm being obedient to a commandment from the Lord), there always manages to be enough. Tithing isn't about the money- The Church has plenty of other sources of income to support itself. It's about the Law of Sacrifice and practicing faith in the Lord. Money is a hard thing to let go of, but it's an outward expression that He's first. "

    Former Gila Valley resident wrote on Sep 30, 2009 8:02 AM:

    " Wasn't this country based on freedom of religion? The temple isn't hurting anybody. You are just afraid of something you don't know anything about. Your spelling is also horrendous. "

    Missing the Point wrote on Sep 30, 2009 6:19 AM:

    " This entire conversation isn't about loving God or believing in Jesus Christ. I can't see Jesus observing this bickering saying, "Oh, that was a nice rebuke mormon guy!" or "That will show them, Safford Resident!" This is a chest-puffed-out-my-God-is-bigger-than-your-God pride fest. I only hope to think the silent majority of the town is quietly respecting each others rights and freedoms. Like the right to worship your religion freely, or on the other side, the right to not join in the thrill and excitement of a religious building that, for whatever reason, they will not enter. "

    Ho humm... wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:57 AM:

    " Now I will admit, the book of mormon can serve as some good purposes. It would make a good pot holder, very good fire starter if you rip the pages up individually and crumple them up. You could get a wheel-barrow-full and set them up stacked against eachother and shoot at them with your choice of firearm to demonstrate how powerful (or weak) the firearm you are using is. Or the most common use would be to carry it around with your nose up in the air and act like you are holier than most people around you. "

    Ho hum... wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:49 AM:

    " Why would I read the book of mormon(fiction) when the Bible(truth) says, Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. "

    ho humm....dee...dum wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:38 AM:

    " So tell me mike which planet are you going to be a god of? And are you having multiple children with multiple wives to populate this planet as you mormons believe? come 'on mike? how many wives do you have? how many kids? are you slackin'? And all dark people will be your servants right? "

    To Temple Recommend wrote on Sep 30, 2009 12:11 AM:

    " Understand that the temple in the LDS faith has always been about sacrifice and only those with faith enough are considered worthy to enter in.

    Historically speaking, the first Mormon temples were erected by much greater sacrifice from the Saints than one could even imagine today. Believe me, paying 10% of my increase is a pittance compared to the sacrifices made historically. "

    Concerned wrote on Sep 30, 2009 12:08 AM:

    " I am very concerned about the new LDS temple coming here. I can't get a job any where here and it is not becuase I am NOT qualified. I graduated from EAC and still when I go apply somewhere. They always give the job to some Mormon. "

    To Temple Recommend wrote on Sep 30, 2009 12:07 AM:

    " The issue of temple worthiness is determined whether or not one declares themselves to be a full tithe payer. This does not discriminate rich from poor, (unlike our current tax system does). 10% of one's increase is what is asked and is usual and customary for most religions.

    The payment of tithe's has always been an act of faith as explained by Malachi and those with faith enough to obey more often than not will attest that they have means enough to sustain them. "

    . wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:43 PM:

    " Remember when Prop 102 was up and all those mormons had that commitee? How loving! Wow they must've meant something else. Hate! Hate! Hate! Don't hide behind you smiles and temple doors. If you believe it don't lie about it. "

    DMiller wrote on Sep 29, 2009 7:45 PM:

    " Venom behind fake names. If this building is going to bring joy and peace to a portion of our residents, I personally don't care what it's made of or what religion it's meant for. I hear news of other religions in this paper, other activities, The Stir. What is it with some of you and the LDS Church? And before you start in on how they run the towns and county - I've been here since 1985. There are good people in this valley of all faiths! "

    joe wrote on Sep 29, 2009 7:36 PM:

    " I hope Mormons take over the world. "

    Hmmm wrote on Sep 29, 2009 6:28 PM:

    " People searching for God-Why is that a bad thing? "

    To Mormons wrote on Sep 29, 2009 5:57 PM:

    " Guys these critics are ignorant and wont possibly understand our religion and what we sacrifice to know the truth they require no response. It only feeds there hate. And to the critics go stand on a corner and waste your time fighting against something rather than building up something (like your family) Pointless maybe? Oh and I am local and I work on the temple and everyone else is not local and 90 percent have tattoos. I dont know why we dont build it by our selves other than maybe missionary work "

    Nothing wrote on Sep 29, 2009 5:50 PM:

    " Nothing but religious dogmatism!

    Indoctrination with a failing of questioning the diatribe fed by the elders.

    DNA genetic testing has proved the inaccuracies of the Mormon doctrine. None of the claims are possible because they are false. "

    snowtiger wrote on Sep 29, 2009 5:21 PM:

    " To Get Out More - maybe you should take your own advice!
    Maybe you should read the Niciene Creed (basis of MOST Christian beliefs) more closely. It clearly states in para2 referring to Jesus Christ "God from God, Light from Light,
    true God from true God,". We (LDS) completely believe in His death and resurrection, that His mission was to Atone for sin requiring our faith and repentance, and from John 15:10 - 'keep the commandments' (work) is required. As for Eph2:8,9 - read verse 10 as well. We are created 'unto good works' and should 'walk in them'. "

    Temple recommend wrote on Sep 29, 2009 5:01 PM:

    " Thank you for answering my question on tithing. It's pretty sad that a person who follows every rule you set down, except for the money part, cannot enter your sacred temple because their dues aren't payed up. What about the poor who barely have enough money to get by, your going to deny them entry? And you call yourselves Christians? More like snobs who won't let the poor into your elite country club.. "

    Believe What You Want to Believe wrote on Sep 29, 2009 5:00 PM:

    " The LDS church changed the name to include Christ in it to gain mainstream acceptance. Certainly, its' members have a right to their own religion and can believe in and change any of its' tenets at their own pleasure.

    However, they do not have the right to call themselves Christians. You are right, we will see--on judgment day--who is right. "

    To golden farce wrote on Sep 29, 2009 4:33 PM:

    " You claim that anyone with a decent education could "right" the Book of Mormon. However, you are unable to post to an online forum without multiple errors: "right, benn, Fedderal." Need I go on? Yes, members of the church do have yearly tithing settlements, but are never told to bring in their W-2's or any other form of documentation. They are taken for their word as to whether they are full tithe payers. Is full tithe paying a pre-requisite to temple attendance? Yes. Is tithing a new concept? No. Re: Malachi3:8-11. "

    To Exodus 32 wrote on Sep 29, 2009 3:59 PM:

    " Golden Nugget,
    GOLDEN RULE! Exodus your off base.

    "Get Out More" who died and made you God. You think your an authority on Christians well I have news you don't know jack. Jesus Christ is the central figure of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Boy are you in for a suprise some day.

    To "Temple recommend".tithes and offerings are a commandment of God. Read your Bible and find the answer. The LDS Church is not about money but if you are not living the commandments you will no enter the Temple. "

    Separator wrote on Sep 29, 2009 3:23 PM:

    " With all due respect, Mr. Bryce needs to be reminded that he is also the president of state run, public community college and as such has an obligation to the entire school. His boasting that this is the "...greatest event since Creation" is inappropriate without the disclaimer that he is speaking in this case only in his capacity as a church official. When he speaks on the record, we assume that his position mirrors the position of the college. EAC hasn't been called the Gila Academy in a long time! "

    Golden Farce wrote on Sep 29, 2009 2:48 PM:

    " Also I find it strange that the prophet gets enlightenment from God only when they are forced into a corner on some issues. One of the big ones I'm referring to is polygamy. It was OK only until the Fedderal Government threatened them. Also blacks were not able to hold the priesthood until they were forced into it. Seems like to me if the prophet was speaking to God everyday they would have been told this was wrong to begin with? They still believe in polygamy in the after life. Women have anything to say? "

    Golden Farce wrote on Sep 29, 2009 2:41 PM:

    " Also the person who mentioned the 10% tithing thing is absolutely right. If you don't pay your tithing and all of it, you don't get in. Believe me they have yearly tithing settlements where they sit you down and go over your w-2 and if your not paying you don't get in. It's a pay to play thing......no exceptions. Also as for the rituals.....I've benn in the temple and no they don't worship the devil of kill animals but they do have outfits you have to wear, secret hand shakes and videos to indoctrinate you. "

    Golden Farce wrote on Sep 29, 2009 2:36 PM:

    " You want to hear from someone who grew up in it? Here I am. Was a member for years....read the book of mormon and the bible. Now that I'm an adult, I don't see how I ever let anyone including my parents to have me believe in this. One of the biggest question I have had is why were the plates that Joseph Smith translated the book of mormon from not made public? Answer, they never existed. Anyone with a decent education could right a book like this one if they are a bible reader. "

    TJ wrote on Sep 29, 2009 1:37 PM:

    " THE BIBLE and the book of mormon DO NOT go hand in hand. The book of mormon is so full of contradictions of what the BIBLE says its ridiculous. You only preach on what goes with your beliefs out of the BIBLE and say the rest cant be trusted. You like the pencil BIBLES that way you can erase what contradicts your book of mormon "

    Exodus 32 wrote on Sep 29, 2009 1:14 PM:

    " Golden Calf? "

    To Safford Resident wrote on Sep 29, 2009 1:07 PM:

    " Hear you go Judgeing again. You are so off base on this not using non members on the building project. If they were laid off it was because they were not preforming or they failed their DRUG TEST. You also failed to mention that their were LDS members that have been laid off as well for the exact same reasons. I can't see where "Clear things up" pointed any finger at you Safford Resident. Last but not least is anyone who has read both the Bible and the Book of Mormon know they go hand in hand. Let's get along! "

    Get Out More wrote on Sep 29, 2009 12:42 PM:

    " Mormonism is not Christian is because it denies one or more of the essential doctrines of Christianity.

    Of the essential doctrines (that there is only one God, Jesus is God in flesh, forgiveness of sins is by grace alone, and Jesus rose from the dead physically, the gospel being the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus), Mormonism denies three of them: how many gods there are, the person of Jesus, and His work of salvation. "

    Wrong place wrote on Sep 29, 2009 12:30 PM:

    " Why wasn't the temple built on Ev Mecham drive in the pristine little town of Saint David Patten? After all, the St. David stake was formed five years before the first Mesa stake! Another point in S.D.s favor is that neither the local convenience store or the grocery sell alcohol. And there's no stupid train tracks to cross to get to that location!
    And why is Pinky's still standing??
    One more thing, approaching from the Thatcher side, the grove of trees completely block the view of the temple. Shoddy planning! "

    Temple recommend wrote on Sep 29, 2009 12:28 PM:

    " I have a question for any Mormon out there. If I join your church, and abide by all the rules, and attend regularly, BUT cannot afford to pay the church 10% of my earnings, or even 1% for that matter, will I be able to enter your temple?? Or would I be turned away at the door because I didn't pay up? I'm just curious to know if this church is about God, or the almighty dollar. "

    Safford resident wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:44 AM:

    " First of all, I never stated that rituals go on nor did I say that LDS members worship the devil and sacrifice animals. Thanks for clearing up the air, now I know that truth. How the LDS members choose to conduct their religion is their thing but don't disgrace the Holy Bible and say that the two books go "hand in hand," because they have no connection whatsoever. "

    To Safford Resident wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:43 AM:

    " Yeah, That didnt happen. The temple doesn't become "sacred grounds" until it's dedicated and completely finished! "

    to Ho Hum wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:42 AM:

    " if you ever actually read the book of mormon you would know that all it talks about is Jesus Christ.

    A verse in the Book of Mormon:

    We rejoice in Christ, we preach and prophecy of Christ, that our children may know where to look for a remission of their sins".
    Someone is lying to you, but it wont be God if you ask him in prayer if the Book of Mormon is true or not. "

    Safford resident wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:38 AM:

    " Funny! Cause I know many people who were laid off from the temple project because they were not mormon and not allowed to step foot on the "sacred grounds". And trust me I don't apply for jobs I'm not qualified for...I have a job and have no plans of looking for one any time soon and I would not apply where co-workers can think they are better than me because they are LDS. "

    to TJ wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:37 AM:

    " Does the bible say that pastors should be paid to preach? Does the bible say anything about the pope? Does the bible say to be hateful towards others? We do not worship the temple, we worship god and jesus christ. "

    to support gay marriage wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:36 AM:

    " I have seen no greater hate than gays and lesbians towards the LDS church. We dont hate you, we are trying to defend our beliefs. Yes, you and your partner may come to the open house. go ahead. See what you're missing. "

    To clear things up wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:34 AM:

    " The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints does not associate with Warren Jeffs IN ANY WAY.
    We hide nothing that goes on in the temple from non members, we invite you to come and see for yourself the blessing that you can recieve from your heavenly father from going to the temple.
    There are NO "rituals" that go on in the temple. Whoever tells you that we do things like worship the devil or sacrifice animals is telling you LIES. Give the book of Mormon a chance. It goes HAND IN HAND with the Bible. "

    To Safford Resident wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:24 AM:

    " You are the one doing all the judgeing. You also have you facts wrong about being turned down for a job because your not LDS. If you were turned down then you were not qualified for the job. I know many non members who are working on the temple and church building. If non LDS people were not working in this area then I would think they would leave. Many of my good friends are none LDS, we have a great respect for each other. and we definrntly have better things to do than Judge others SAFFORD RESIDENT "

    bwana wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:19 AM:

    " Hey Snowtiger....
    I am referring to all religions, but especially the Judeo-Islamic-Christian ones...You all claim to have the word of God, and yet deny the same with regard to each other. I think you are all wrong. Your religion is a fabrication; it is an artificial system created by man; a mechanism of social order and enforcement designed to surreptitiously protect the haves from the have nots.
    What you believe or don't believe will have no bearing on your afterlife...It is what it is. "

    El Zorro wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:17 AM:

    " Wow...what hateful comments towards a church that doesnt nothing but promote peace and love towards other. Those that are bashing the LDS church for any reason need to seriously stop listening to everything that Pastor Bob feeds them and research for yourself. Talk to a member of the church and learn for yourself. The Book of Mormon is not fiction, it is a true book, that contains the words of ancient prophets in this continent, who all speak and rejoice of Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God! "

    Yeah wrote on Sep 29, 2009 10:46 AM:

    " I'm not a mormon, but every time i drive by that temple i always say WOW that is so beautiful. I can't wait for he open house ! "

    Fact wrote on Sep 29, 2009 9:37 AM:

    " Shaesca, The LDS church does more Humanitarian Aid and gives more to the poor than any other church. I am proud of you for reading the Book of Mormon and I am sorry you didn't feel the spirit, just isn't your time I guess. The LDS church is one of the fastest growing churches in the world. Jesus Christ is our Savior and is the foundation of the church thats why the true name is THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS. The mormon people are genuine, loveing, caring people. What a blessing this temple is to all. "

    JER wrote on Sep 29, 2009 9:26 AM:

    " TO Shaesca-
    It really is unfortunate how little you and others really do know about this church. While I'm not going to say anything about how you felt, as that is personal thing, before you bash the church for it's "gold leafing" you should maybe look into how much humanitarian work they do. Nearly always the first on scene after huge disasters, providing relief for those in need regardless of faith. Although I will say in a small town, where everybody knows you, it will give you a false "welcome" feeling...Makes you feel like charity. "

    Lane Glasgow wrote on Sep 29, 2009 8:41 AM:

    " God lives and loves his children - all of them. I'm trying to be like that, despite criticism, inconsideration, and plain ugliness. Would to God that we all follow Jesus and just be nice. Long Live the Golden Rule. "

    amazed wrote on Sep 29, 2009 5:48 AM:

    " I am totally amazed at the negative comments that are being given. Temples in the old, testament, temples in the new testament, temples built to worship god and help his children. God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. He loves all his children, why would there not be a temple in modern days? With all the wars and unpeaceful things happening, you would think that people would welcome a beautiful, peaceful place in their midst. We enjoy the beauty of other places of worship in the valley, don't we? "

    Mike wrote on Sep 29, 2009 12:30 AM:

    " for HoHum - Jesus is Lord and Savior and our only way to salvation, The Bible, Book of Mormon and all other scriptures that God chooses to give to Mankind are scripture (since when did God quit speaking?), and throughout history, God has commanded his children to build houses where he could dwell (God hasn't changed this mandate). The LDS have a rich history in the Gila Valley, have made it blossom and deserve a beautiful House of The Lord. Amen! "

    Safford resident wrote on Sep 28, 2009 11:06 PM:

    " Who cares! We all know the reason they don't want non-mormons in the temple is because they don't want us to know what goes on behind closed doors...and we all know that mormons do worse than they want to admit to. "

    safford resident wrote on Sep 28, 2009 11:01 PM:

    " I can't understand why this story made it onto the Yahoo home page as if it was some big spectacular story! It's completely lame and seriously....why is it always about the MORMONS here? There are many other religions and you don't see them making headlines.

    The whole mormon religion bother's me greatly, who are they to judge me because I don't follow them, why are people getting turned down for jobs because they are not mormon? I think the whole project was funded by Warren Jeffs! "

    Joker wrote on Sep 28, 2009 10:53 PM:

    " To joe....you say you must fully immerse yourself in sometheing before you criticise it? I have several LDS friends who criticise drinking, drug use, etc..... are you saying they fully immersed themselves in all that? I think a basic knowledge of facts is enough to make your own judgement. "

    bob wrote on Sep 28, 2009 9:45 PM:

    " To those who claim that they know the bible: read again the decription of the costly tabernacle built by Moses by a people without a home, wandering in the wilderness, then read how Chirst cleansed the temple of those who defiled his house with his own hands, and remember, back then only jews entered there. "

    To Shaesca wrote on Sep 28, 2009 9:36 PM:

    " According to wikipedia.org: From 1985-2008 the LDS church has donated $282 MILLION in cash and $833 MILLION in commodoties throughout 167 countries. In 2008 the LDS church responded to 124 disasters in 48 countries. They have a wheelchair distribution program, clean water program, neonatal resuscitation program, vision treatment program, and job placement programs. They also have a fund program that sends students in 3rd world countries to college. They also work with the Red Cross, Catholic and Islamic charities. "

    WOW wrote on Sep 28, 2009 9:08 PM:

    " Putting a "golden" statue ontop of a building is NOT the greatest thing that has ever happened to the Gila Valley. The greatest thing is yet to come. "

    Miriam Feldstein Case wrote on Sep 28, 2009 9:05 PM:

    " I am very happy for the people who live in this area. I live in NH, and having a temple, outside of Boston, is great.
    I feel very sorry for people who are opposed to our beliefs. Christ is central to our faith. We know it, but so many fail to check out the truth. "

    snowtiger wrote on Sep 28, 2009 8:23 PM:

    " Bwana - to which religion are you referring? My understanding is that all religions, except those revealed by God, are man-made. Joseph Smith received revelation from God to reorganize the church that began with Jesus Christ, but unfortunately people lost their way and changed it over many years. So your statement is irrelevant here.
    Ho hum - if you have ever bothered to open the Book of Mormon you will find record of the visit of Jesus Christ to the Americas after his death and resurrection in Jerusalem. (3 Nephi 11ff). His teachings are as in the Bible. We useboth "

    LeRoy wrote on Sep 28, 2009 7:08 PM:

    " Temples, such as this one, are the most sacred places on this earth. They bring understanding to those who need it, hope to those who do not have any and love from our Heavenly Fathers son, who is Jesus Christ. Through the Temples sacred covenants are made with God. These covenants bring families together for all eternity and give us an oportunity to give christlike service to others who have passed, beyond mortality, without an oportunity to receive the covenants that are available to them.
    I write this testimony in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ, Amen. "

    TJ wrote on Sep 28, 2009 6:22 PM:

    " who cares about this mahoni or macaroni or whatever you call him. Funny how there is no mention in the Bible. Could this be that he was made up????? "

    Support Gay Marriage wrote on Sep 28, 2009 5:02 PM:

    " So, I guess that my partner and I will be welcomed with open arms to the open house?

    Does this mean the end to the Mormon hate directed toward gays and lesbians?

    We will all be there when it is opened!! "

    Shaesca wrote on Sep 28, 2009 3:35 PM:

    " I have read the Book of Mormon and attended church meetings and functions. I found the book to be lacking in spirituality and the meetings and people to be putting forth false friendliness, false faces and as phony as the book they believe in. It left me very empty, with a sad feeling. I'll stick to my own beliefs. The gold leaf alone on the angel Maroni would feed a small starving country. Yet, the LDS need their "beautiful house of the Lord." More power to them in their delusions. This too shall pass. "

    religiousfreedom wrote on Sep 28, 2009 3:09 PM:

    " Please see the following link for more information: You will need to preceed with the appropriate w's.

    lds.org/temples/faq/0,11264,1904-1,00.html

    And we hope you will join us at the open house. "

    Put These Articles Inside the Paper wrote on Sep 28, 2009 2:45 PM:

    " It is a pretty sad commentary that this is "the greatest event to happen in this Valley since the creation".

    This speaks volumes regarding the Gila valley.

    For the comments here--I have attended the Mormon church and have read the Book. I found it to be the greatest work of fiction ever written.

    As far as the temple, more power to you to build it. I don't really have a problem with it. I am just tired of reading articles and seeing photos on the front page of the paper. Put them inside the paper. "

    joe wrote on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM:

    " To those who post hateful comments: Why not show some class and a shred of intellect and actually attend some meeting at an LDS church and read the Book of Mormon instead of bashing it. In order to fully criticise something, you have to fully immerse yourself in it. I am LDS, but if next week's front page story is that the Pope is going to visit the local Catholic congregation, I would be very happy for those local Catholics. I have many friends who disagree with my religion, and vice versa, but we do it respectfully. "

    to the haters wrote on Sep 28, 2009 1:55 PM:

    " This is news for those in the valley that are interested. Just as the Catholic church improving thier parking and landscaping was a couple years ago. Just like news of Victory Fellowship offering free movies was this summer. The same goes for articles on Salsa Fest, Hispanic Heritage carshows, Pioneer days, whatever. Community interest articles. If you aren't interested, don't read them. "

    LDS wrote on Sep 28, 2009 1:45 PM:

    " I just hope all of the LDS residents of the valley look past any derogatory or hate-filled comments on this message board and don't contribute to the arguements.

    Everyone has their own free will to believe what they choose. "

    billhippo wrote on Sep 28, 2009 12:14 PM:

    " couldn't agree more with bwana on this subject "

    mikey9a wrote on Sep 28, 2009 12:13 PM:

    " Hey Whatever...

    Come on in to one of the LDS churches. Learn their beliefs.... become a member...live righteously and then enter their temple.

    God loves all his children.

    He requires sacrifice and dedication to enter his temples. There is nothing wrong with that.

    The temple is based on covenants not charity. A covenant is a promise between a member of the church and the Lord. That means both sides are beholden to the covenant. That is a pure relationship. I highly encourage anyone to seek more about the church. "

    RFM wrote on Sep 28, 2009 12:08 PM:

    " This is a great time to live in the Gila Valley when we finally get a beautiful Temple where we can go to "The House of the Lord" to worship our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, in peace and harmony. It's been wonderful to have two Temples, in Mesa ane Snowflake, but now we will have three. We are so blessed. "

    Fred wrote on Sep 28, 2009 10:14 AM:

    " I cant wait to see the comments that Bwana and his ilk spew on this topic. "

    David J wrote on Sep 28, 2009 7:21 AM:

    " This is a welcome addition to the Gila Valley! I used to live in Eden and had to drive to Mesa to go to the Temple, something I willingly did. Though I no longer live there, I am happy for all those who still do. "

    ho hum... wrote on Sep 28, 2009 2:29 AM:

    " Where does Jesus belong in this fictional story that has made millions for LDS Inc.? So many intelligent people following a false religion. Jesus is the Truth, the way and the light. Put the book of mormon down and slowly step away and pick up a Bible and read it, there you will find the truth. Stop worshipping a building with a statue. Lord Jesus have Grace and Mercy on the Gilia Valley... "

    M. Gonzales wrote on Sep 27, 2009 8:40 PM:

    " How about some pictures of the meeting house to see how it is coming along "

    MHF wrote on Sep 27, 2009 8:36 PM:

    " Mark Bryce's comment "It's the greatest event to happen in this valley since the creation" is absurd and inappropriate. It makes me cringe that not only am I apart of the same religion of someone who would say such a thing, but he is also a leader in that religion. Now, if he would have said, "It is a great thing for the LDS members in this valley," I would get that. But even as a member (who is thrilled to be getting a temple) I wouldn't call it the "greatest" thing. It's a statue. "

    Jack Mormon wrote on Sep 27, 2009 3:59 PM:

    " All I have to say is AWESOME!!! Never thought I would see something so beautifull in this area. "

    are you serious wrote on Sep 27, 2009 11:46 AM:

    " Does the courier really have to write an article on the placement of the angel moroni on the temple. May I say "Who really cares." What you should write about is a story exposing the rituals that take place inside the temple. Now that would be a story in itself. "

    Bryan wrote on Sep 27, 2009 10:36 AM:

    " This is a great article, one of the better ones written by the courier! "

    bwana wrote on Sep 27, 2009 9:19 AM:

    " That's a cool picture!
    The angel being hoisted by a crane is kind of symbolic of how religion was created by man. "

    Whatever wrote on Sep 27, 2009 8:38 AM:

    " Aren't churchs and temples and any place of worship houses of the Lord? Therefore shouldn't anyone be allowed in. God loves all of us not just the one's with a temple pass. "

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