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actions wrote on Nov 19, 2009 6:09 PM:

" I will not argue that Parmeter broke his marriage vows and his wife's heart and caused so much heartbreak to others through his actions. In my opinion, he deserved to spend the rest of his life locked up. I still will not agree, however, that he or his actions are the cause of the deaths of his wife and child. I strongly believe that each of us is responsible for our own actions. To blame their deaths on his horrendous behavior would be like blaming my spouse for treating me so terribly that it drove me to commit adultry. "




sickened wrote on Nov 19, 2009 9:26 AM:

" Those of you who see Parmeter as doing no wrong. Think about the fact that he was married and a father. What a great example of honoring marriage vows. He did not directly kill his wife and child, but his actions contributed to the results, did they not? Or are we so modern that adultry is no longer a wrong deed? Is there any guarantee that he will not indulge in sex with an underage girl ever again. What is his deterrent? Hands slapped, bad boy, don't do it again. Yeh right!!!!!!! "




Facts wrote on Nov 18, 2009 9:28 AM:

" Interestingly, there isn't much in the way of criminal cases for this guy. Traffic, marriage, divorce and such do NOT fall under the same criteria. Way different from Criminal activity -- I'd say!! "




amazed wrote on Nov 18, 2009 12:16 AM:

" Our prisons are full to the brim. Now we're paying for someone else to be behind bars. I think some of our laws are too much. Maybe parents should be in charge of minors and watch them all the time so they don't get involved with older men. My grandmother was married at 15 - sure glad my grandfather was not put behind bars. We need to change the law and the judge. Election is coming up next year. "




Ugh wrote on Nov 17, 2009 8:52 PM:

" To "Fact Finder" I just did my own fact search and your results are incorrect he only has 14 things. Plus not all of those are even cases....Also conduct/assault/fighting can't always be avoided ever heard of self defense? "




Fact Finder wrote on Nov 17, 2009 12:34 PM:

" Whoa- just looked up Blake's public records... 17 cases! 2 for disorderly conduct/assualt/fighting looks like this guy has a history of not being able to control himself. Just hope taking him away from his daughter won't destory the father/daughter bond. "




why wrote on Nov 16, 2009 8:24 PM:

" "To parents, there is nothing more precious in life than their child." Why then are there kids in foster care, orphanges, and on the streets? Also why do abortions still take place then? "




change wrote on Nov 16, 2009 3:55 PM:

" "Times have changed" I totally agree with you times have changed and our laws need to do the same "




Times have changed wrote on Nov 16, 2009 3:25 PM:

" Don't know about others, but I know that two of my great grandmothers married at age 14. I am sure that many others out there also have grandmothers that married this young. Why does the law call these young women children??? "




hmm... wrote on Nov 16, 2009 12:38 PM:

" To "Here’s an idea.” true everyone knows this is illegal but why then are there so many illegal relationships among teenagers that go unreported every year? Did you know current laws are not set up to protect the virgins in cases like this? The government originally created this law to lower teenage pregnancies. "




me wrote on Nov 16, 2009 12:33 PM:

" To "Captain America" How does what one has done in ones life change there sentence for doing something illegal? what ever happened to everyone being equal? "




Heres an idea. wrote on Nov 15, 2009 11:51 AM:

" You can't compare the Parmenter case to this one!! They are two seperate circumstances.!! "




Heres an idea. wrote on Nov 15, 2009 11:48 AM:

" To all the detractors of Judge Holt's decision: Are you kidding me? Doesen't everyone KNOW that having sex with ANY child is not only illegal but morally reprehensible? I think the defendant in this case should, if anything, have even MORE restrictions and requirements levied against him upon his release.
GROW A BRAIN......THEN A BACKBONE!!!! "




Captain America wrote on Nov 15, 2009 8:03 AM:

" Law Student, Apples to Oranges.

Parmeter was a great coach. He helped EAC win a lot of games. Did Blake lead the B-ball team to greatness?

... didn't think so. "




Roadrunner wrote on Nov 14, 2009 5:08 PM:

" To Law Student & other Bloggers:

Some keep referring to Coach Parameter & trying to compare his case to this one. If anyone knew the facts of both, although they have similarities, when it came to actual charges, convictions and sentences, they're both completely different.

You need to do your homework rather than shooting from the lip.

Get one FACT RIGHT!! Parameter wasn't & isn't a Killer!!! "




Roadrunner wrote on Nov 14, 2009 5:03 PM:

" Law Student,

You obviously show that you are not one by your mere ignorance of the facts of both cases.

Go play Lawyer somewhere else. "




Double Standard wrote on Nov 14, 2009 4:01 PM:

" Why is it that women are almost never convicted for these types of crime? I have a friend in Tennessee that tried to have her 19 year old daughter charged for being sexually involved with a 15 year old boy and authorities refuse to do anything about it. Her daughter and this boy are even living together. "




actions wrote on Nov 14, 2009 7:24 AM:

" While I agree that Parmeter is scum and definitely deserved much harsher punishment than he recieved, I have a problem blaming the deaths of his wife and child on his actions. They died as a direct result of his wife's actions. Many people have been through much worse and have not murdered their own child! I am in no way condoning Parmeter's behavior. Like I said, he is scum but in my opinion, so was his wife for doing what she did! Blake also got what he deserves. "




Law student wrote on Nov 13, 2009 3:50 PM:

" I'm not trained in the law (bcause I chose an "honorable" profession), but the disparity in sentencing in some of these cases is ASTONISHING.

Parmeter was 38---his victim was 16. That is TWENTY TWO YEAR'S DIFFERENCE. In the above case, the two young people were only what--- 6 years apart?

And tthis kid----who DID do something wrong---no question about it---gets a sentence TWENTY times as long as Parmeter's.

Plus, no one DIED as a result of Blake's actions---NOT as in the Parmeter case.
Does anyone out there really think this is fair? "




Representation U Deserve wrote on Nov 13, 2009 3:43 PM:

" Are there any statistics available on the average local IQ (that means "intelligence quotient") ?

Reading some of these blogs has convinced me that many local people (and quite a few elected officials) AREN'T TOO BRIGHT.

But, I guess if the locals are not the "sharpest tools in the shed", then it makes sense that they would elect representatives who reflect that quality.

SO---it all makes perfect sense! "




Well wrote on Nov 13, 2009 2:59 PM:

" It's not like he took it to trial, the guy plead guilty for his crime. If he had taken it to trial, more information may have been said in open court, but he would have risked a substantially longer sentence as well. "




... wrote on Nov 13, 2009 2:56 PM:

" It is so interesting to see just how well ones government can screw one over...and to think most of us put the most pressure and concern on who is to be the next president maybe we all should look more into or court systems after all they are the ones that can personally affect each of our lives...it is almost as if they have more control over things then the president himself...I mean after all the court system can decide whether or not you live or die due to the mistakes you make in your life "




To Jake the Snake wrote on Nov 13, 2009 9:31 AM:

" I would think this was unjust if it were my daughter!!! "




Reporting wrote on Nov 13, 2009 9:27 AM:

" Interestingly enough all the facts were not presented by the paper. More was said in court in Blakes favor. If more facts were presented to the general public more would be out raged over this. "




azrules wrote on Nov 13, 2009 12:45 AM:

" saying what we want with no repercussions is awesome! "




On the outside looking in wrote on Nov 12, 2009 10:46 PM:

" 10 years is the presumptive sentence. That means if you are caught doing this, it is presumed you will get 10 years. Don't forget the county prosecutor and his probation officer also recommended 10 years as well. "




missing him wrote on Nov 12, 2009 10:15 PM:

" how does Holt even sleep at night is what i keep thinking.Elias is a wonderful guy who does not deserve this..10 yrs is rediculous.There are people out there doing less time for murder. Elias comes from a wonderful family i pray for them and him every night! "




Roadrunner wrote on Nov 12, 2009 8:58 PM:

" The girl, is just that. She's a 14 year old girl who doesn't have the right to give consent under the law. She's still a very impressionable girl.

Elias on the other hand is the 21 to 22 year old adult male who should know better. "




Roadrunner wrote on Nov 12, 2009 8:53 PM:

" If one were to review the many sex offender crimes that are charged & sentenced in this State, you will find that Judge Holt sentence per the Arizona Sentencing guidelines within the law. Do your homework & check it out.

When someone plays with fire, they risk getting burnt.

Great JOB Judge Holt. "




Whatever wrote on Nov 12, 2009 4:53 PM:

" It's so easy for the random spectator to yell at the refs from the sidelines and think that they can do a way better job, but go in there and try being the ref. It's an awesome responsibility to be a judge and so many people keep yelling from the sidelines boldly stating that they could do so much better. Look at the facts and think about what you're saying before you open your mouth "




Russ wrote on Nov 12, 2009 3:45 PM:

" If you think there are inequities in the sentencing out of the courthouse (and there is) then find an attorney who will run against the judge in the next election. Then vote for him or her. Make sure it is an attorney though that won't back down when the late night phone call comes telling them to withdraw from the race in exchange for something else later on. If no attorney steps up to the plate then we get what we deserve. "




Really wrote on Nov 12, 2009 10:21 AM:

" Why did he have to pay for the mothers counseling too? Really? 10 years and have to pay $900 dollars. What kinda place is Safford turning into? "




WayTooMuch wrote on Nov 12, 2009 10:13 AM:

" Shouldn't the girl have known to stay away from the guy after the first supposed incident? 10 years was not at all right for this. Way too much. "




Roadrunner wrote on Nov 12, 2009 9:07 AM:

" Bloggers,
You make reference to EAC Coach, However, you forget that Parameter wasn't charged with Rape, or Murder. As immoral a situation it may have been all the way around, his victim was 16 at the time & was 18 by the time it was over. According to our Laws, age does make a difference.
Elias' victim was 14.
Guys over 18 years old get the message:
DON'T HAVE SEX WITH GIRLS UNDER 18 YEARS OLD. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
plain & simple. Anyone with a Brain should know this. "




Roadrunner wrote on Nov 12, 2009 9:00 AM:

" Bloggers,

Whether or not you agree with the sentence handed out, You jump to conclusions based upon what little you know.

Judge Holt sentenced fairly under the law as to what was presented to him in Court. "




To Upset wrote on Nov 11, 2009 4:09 PM:

" Those two guys were 19 and 21 years old. They got $300 dollar fines and unsupervised probation for contributing to the delinquency of a minor and providing alcohol to a minor. Pretty petty fine I say. "




Agree wrote on Nov 11, 2009 11:53 AM:

" People do need to read the rest of the aticles on this case, i believe he was dating the older sister, and was welcomed into the home. Doesnt mean he has aright to do this. Smarter than you has problems to blame these parents, I hope the family is Ok. Good Job Judge Holt. Blake deserved what he got. "




Blind Justice wrote on Nov 11, 2009 9:12 AM:

" Never really understood why Justice is blindfolded until I saw how Judge Holt turned a blind eye to the facts in this case!!!! "




Still Disgusted wrote on Nov 10, 2009 11:29 PM:

" We'll apparently some people that read articles about these disgusting people don't keep track or follow up on cases, if you would have read before in other articles involving this case he was a friend to the family of the older sister. Which this guy took advantage of a good family and good parents, as i would know from knowing this family. This family would certainly NOT let underage dating happen, and people that want to blame the parents before knowing exactly what happend, your no better than Mr. Blake here!!! Death Penalty sounds more reasonable to me! "




Smarter Than What wrote on Nov 10, 2009 9:37 PM:

" With all the anti Judge Holt comments on this blog it sounds like a group of Pedophiles trying to cover for one of their own, or justify the act. It was not the victims fault, the parents fault or the Judges fault. The responsibly for this act is with Blake 100%, he made the decision to engage in sex with the victim and the Judge made the decision to send Blake to prison for 10 years. Everybody has choices, Blake made the wrong choice. "




What wrote on Nov 10, 2009 6:08 PM:

" To smarter than you--your insane to blame the parents of the child and say they are more at fault than the man that did the crime. These are good parents, he did wrong- don't blame the wrong person. If he wasn't responsible he wouldn't have pled guilty and admitted to what he did. "




Well Please wrote on Nov 10, 2009 5:47 PM:

" You don't look very smart when you place more blame on the parents then on the perpetrator of the crime. Blake did his crime, now he has to do his time. Parmeter is an entirely different set of rules because the girl was 16 not 14. That makes it go from a class 6 felony to a class 3. Very different sentencing structures for the different classes of felonies. If you find fault with that, blame the legislatures who set the sentencing requirements and the voters who approve them, not the judge who enforces the law. "




What wrote on Nov 10, 2009 4:09 PM:

" I'm confused----

Didn't we just let the EAC Bassketball Coach off with a 6 month sentence for a MUCH worse crime?

Didn't two people DIE as a result of HIS indisgression?

Or do we treat basketball coaches as some kind of "priveleged characters"?

What's up with that? "




Russ wrote on Nov 10, 2009 4:08 PM:

" Is there an election coming up? They are all starting to blur together. Not that it matters, Holt always runs unopposed. Sucks. "




Confused wrote on Nov 10, 2009 4:03 PM:

" I was jsut thinking about Coach Tim Parmeter---who was having an affair with a local 16 year-old. I think he was over 35 when it happenned.

I heard he got a 6 month sentence for that.

Seems like Parmeter was a much more serious threat to society than this kid---who got a sentence TWENTY times as long as Coach Tim's..

Were these two cases tried in the same country---or was one tried in the TWILIGHT ZONE? "




Mamoud wrote on Nov 10, 2009 3:59 PM:

" Congratulations to Judge Holt---I love strong sentences for bad criminals.

In my coountry, we know how to treat the evil-doers.

We cut off tongues for those who speak oout of turn---and we cut off hands for those who steal a loaf of bread.

And if someone doesn't know their place and show proper respect---they are stoned in the marketplace.

Maybe Judge Holt should come and dispense justice in my country. He would be revered as a savior---and be rewarded with many camels! "




Smarter Than You wrote on Nov 10, 2009 3:54 PM:

" Who is writing these pro- Judge Holt comments? Probably Judge Holt.

Your job is not to "make examples". Your job is to dispense justice.

The real criminals in this case are the girl's parents---who should be doing hard time for inadequate supervision of their daughter. About 5 years in prison for each of them would be about right.

The young man involved is not as responsible as the girl's parents in this case. he should have been punished---but 10 years? "




Solomon wrote on Nov 10, 2009 3:47 PM:

" OK---so Tim Parmeter, age 38, can have relations with a 16 year old---ultimately resulting in TWO DEATHS (his wife's suicide & the murder of their son) and HE gets a 6 month sentence---and DOESN'T have to register as a sex offender.

This poor kid gets 10 years.

Sad to live in a state that allows this kind of situation to exist. Is this FAIR? "




family friend wrote on Nov 10, 2009 2:53 PM:

" Elias comes from a great family. Good parents and siblings. May we remember this is hard for them too He's a great guy just a bad decision. Elias was an employee of mine and the guy worked harder than any kid I knew. Good luck to him and his family. May God bless them as they go through this. "




upset wrote on Nov 10, 2009 2:51 PM:

" I remember reading a story a few months back where 2 boys, 18 and 19 if i remember right were cought after hours providing beer to 2 14 year old girls and doing some very adult things when they were cought, how did they miss the rader? One of the boys names was mandell, what ever happen to them? "




writter wrote on Nov 10, 2009 2:13 PM:

" i think they should have gave him less time i mean ten years come on there are plenty more guys that have been raping girls out there and get cought and they get what two years "




UNJUST wrote on Nov 10, 2009 1:52 PM:

" How do you feel justice was served in this case???? Blake will be setting in prison with Guys that brutally raped very young children and are only serving 5 years??? How is this just. How would that make you feel??? Blow smoke somewhere else. "




Mother Check wrote on Nov 10, 2009 1:38 PM:

" Mothers are to know where there children are, who they are with, and what they are doing until they are 18.
I know that is HARD. (I've been there.) But apparently, parents need to be reminded that that is their Job! Don't put your children in ackward situations. Come on! "




In Need of a Deterrent wrote on Nov 10, 2009 12:53 PM:

" Maybe Judge Holt can offer some suggestions for the fine folk in Colorado City. Taking a 14 year old for a "wife" is common among the nutcases in that community and the state doesn't say a word. The mainstream LDS church also turns a blind eye since so many of them are related! They lay up on the welfare of this "socialist government" of ours and make more polygamists. If the residents of that fine community had been mostly Black or Hispanic it would have disappeared long ago! "




thinker wrote on Nov 10, 2009 12:50 PM:

" So sure most seem to agree what took place was wrong but not on the sentencing....to those who feel Holt was right....think about how much ones life can change in ten years....how would you like to find your self in jail for ten years with no contact with the outside world...most of us can't stand being laid off from work for a matter of months or a couple years....not to mention very little contact with loved ones...also how many of you have yet to make a mistake in your lives? How easy it is to judge others but not ourselves? "




Jason wrote on Nov 10, 2009 12:44 PM:

" You have to give credit when it is due. Out of the last 6 or 7 serious crimes that came before him the judge and the county attorney FINALLY got it right. Just wonder why this guy gets nailed and other serious offenders walked. Lets see not a football player, did not say he was sorry, held no records at safford track, not an important person in the community and with elections around the corner nail him. Well good job in getting him off the streets lets just keep it up though "




Dont be fast to judge wrote on Nov 10, 2009 12:36 PM:

" The article states that he was welcomed into their home. NOT that he was welcomed into their home to be with their daughter. Who is to say that he wasn't just a friend of the family. Don't even go and blame the family! "




Unsure wrote on Nov 10, 2009 11:39 AM:

" I'm unsure about the lifetime sex offender status. Maybe it is required by law. But--as sick as his crime was--I am not sure that being on supervised sex offender status at age 40 is really needed for someone his age sleeping with someone who was 14. I have a daughter and am disgusted by his crime. This is my only issue with the case. Parmeter was very different. "




father of daughters wrote on Nov 10, 2009 11:34 AM:

" I applaud judge Holt he did the right thing.This happens way to much in this community. Also think the parents of the underage girl need punished also. Why would you let a 14 yr old girl be with a 22 yr old man. "




A Mother wrote on Nov 10, 2009 11:31 AM:

" Thank you Judge Holt. Men get confused when 14 year-old girls, dress like a woman, walk like a woman, and talk like a woman. She is still just a girl. "




NO APPOLOGIES wrote on Nov 10, 2009 9:26 AM:

" I agree that holt did what he had to do in sentencing Blake, people need to realise they cant go around sleeping with minors and getting away with it. I mean really, what was he thinking??? I'm also wondering where this young girl's parents were and why they were leaving her with a 22 year old man in the first place???? "




Unjust wrote on Nov 10, 2009 5:15 AM:

" It states in the article that the family of the victim "welcomed" Blake "into their family" who knew the age of the male, why then would they allow unsupervised contact with their underage daughter? How then were the parents protecting their under age daughter? Ten Years??? It has happened more than enough times in this area when a minor has sexual intercourse with Someone over the age of 18 and they were not punished so harshly... Guilty? Yes! But Ten Years?? Come on! "




Good Job Judge wrote on Nov 9, 2009 5:12 PM:

" Judge Holt was right on this sentence. Hopefully the victim and her family are able to go one with their lives. Congratulations to the victim for being brave enough to come forward you are a hero. "




good job holt wrote on Nov 9, 2009 4:09 PM:

" you deserve an award for putting one more scumbag behind bars for at leats 10 years "




offender wrote on Nov 9, 2009 3:48 PM:

" Once a sex offender always a sex offender. These men and women do not stop until they are dead!!! It is in their genetic make up. They will do their crime and always re offend. When it comes to sex offenders in this world, there is no justice for their victims as they will just move on from one victim to the next... "




Jake The Snake wrote on Nov 9, 2009 3:30 PM:

" Judge Holt did nothing wrong. These people would complain either way, too light of a sentence or too harsh, there is just no way to make some people happy, so the the Judge did the only other thing he could do, and that is do the right thing. I wonder how many people would think this was an unjust sentence if it were their daughter, sister or friend that was the victim. "




good job holt wrote on Nov 9, 2009 2:41 PM:

" i dont understand what holt did wrong? "




We live in an insane world wrote on Nov 9, 2009 12:32 PM:

" A reversal on the sentences in these two cases would have been understandable but --this seems so UNJUST. "




Apples to oranges wrote on Nov 9, 2009 12:06 PM:

" Blake's victim was under 15, Parmeter's over. Huge difference under the statutes. Long prison sentences for the first, barely a felony for the second. "




To Wrote wrote on Nov 9, 2009 10:32 AM:

" To Wrote. Parmeter's sentences could have panned out a lot different if he would have had a different judge. There was a conflict of interests with judge holt. Parmeter needed a strict sentence like this! "




pervo wrote on Nov 9, 2009 2:15 AM:

" WOW "




wrote on Nov 8, 2009 5:10 PM:

" So how come Tim Parmeter the old EAC basketball coach did not get Judge Holt? "